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Enis

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iconnumber posted 04-08-2004 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,

The Ottoman WW1 Service Medal depicted, commonly referred to as the Ottoman "Gallipoli" medal after that famous battle but also awarded for service in other theaters of WW1 such as in Galicia, Caucasus, Iraq and Egypt, was made in three locations - Istanbul, Turkey; Berlin, Germany; and London, England. I would appreciate any assistance finding out which country utilized the "935" hallmarks in two places on the back of this particular silver medal.

Thank you.




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Patrick Vyvyan

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iconnumber posted 04-09-2004 12:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick Vyvyan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can find a certain amount of information on this medal at [gone from the imternet - turkishmedals.net/decorations.htm]

The ordinary issues of the medal were, it seems, for other ranks in silvered brass and for officers in white metal. The white metal examples often have the mark of an unidentified maker "BB&Co", probably German. However, BB&Co apparently also made examples in silver.

But in addition: "There are a huge variety of German made private purchase examples, which were manufactured by virtually every German court jeweler from the World War I era through the 3rd Reich period. Private purchase badges can be found in silver, white metal, silvered bronze, bronze, and even aluminum, with a variety of pin attachments, screw back attachments, or rings at the top for wear on a medal bar. A few examples of a much larger size are known, almost certainly private purchase pieces."

Personally I doubt your medal was made in England where I would expect the silver content to have been sterling, i.e., 925, or, at a pinch, 950. I've never come across 935 in an English context, but that may well be only my ignorance.

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Enis

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iconnumber posted 04-09-2004 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Enis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Patrick, I am in total agreement. I know the enamelled English versions are generally stamped "BB&Co." on the back which this medal is not. According to Ottoman Medals and Orders: A Documented History by Metin Erureten (ISBN: 975-97637-0-2) published 2001, an outstanding pictorial reference book, Erureten writes that some of the enamelled versions (which this one is) were made in Berlin (pp. 324). Which is what I am inclined to think right now; but I still want to find out about the "935" hallmark to be sure. Thanks again.

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