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Kenand

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iconnumber posted 08-29-2004 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kenand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wondered if anyone has any reference to maker - stamped on side of spoons is Ster-Silv and W Germany and small almost heatshaped stamp with three dots inside Also a small sugar spoon in a different rose pattern stamped on back 835 and mark of initial W inside a Capital C.

Thanks in advance for any information!
Ken

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Arg(um)entum

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iconnumber posted 08-29-2004 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Arg(um)entum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's difficult to say without a picture but it could be that the second one (W inside C) is Widmann in Pforzheim, a company that has existed since the 1st quarter of the 20th century. Sorry, can't tell you any more.

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Kenand

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iconnumber posted 08-31-2004 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kenand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you

As a newbie I haven't yet tried to post a photo, need to read up on the procedure.

Regards, Ken.

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Kenand

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iconnumber posted 09-01-2004 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kenand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just checked the Christoph Widmann site and yes the w inside C is the same - rose pattern of this spoon is different to current reproductions offered (taller rosebud almost like a thistle pattern) - sorry can't post photos of the other yet as my ISP doesn't support web space.
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blakstone

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iconnumber posted 09-01-2004 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blakstone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This pattern - known as Hildesheimer Rose - was manufactured by a number of German companies, including Widmann (which is still in business). It was - and remains - wildly popular in Germany.

The name comes from an allegedly thousand year old rose bush at Hildesheim Cathedral. The legend is that King Louis the Pious held a sacrifice for the Virgin Mary in a forest but, afterwards, the church implements borrowed for the service were missing. After a search, the items were found irretrievably entangled in a rose bush. Seeing this as a sign from the Blessed Mother, King Louis ordered a chapel built on the spot.

On this site was later built Hildesheim Cathedral, where the rose bush still stands. The tree was burned and presumed destroyed during fire bombing in WWII, but it miraculously bloomed the following summer and continues to do so, being universally acknowledged as the oldest rose bush in the world.

More may be found at: Hildesheim Cathedral with the 1000-year-old rose bush (872), Hildesheim Domhof 31134 Hildesheim

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Kenand

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iconnumber posted 09-01-2004 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kenand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for that additional interesting information,everything helps.

Ken

[This message has been edited by Kenand (edited 05-04-2005).]

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