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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 09-20-2004 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The House of Odiot Silversmiths was founded in 1690 and is still in business today.

In their long history Jean-Baptiste-Claude Odiot (b 8 June 1763; d 23 May 1850) cabinetmaker and silversmith was their most famous smith. He became a master in 1785. The only surviving work by him dating from before the French Revolution (1789––95) is a coffee urn (Monticello, VA, Jefferson Found.) designed and commissioned by Thomas Jefferson.

Odiot’s career as a silversmith essentially began in 1802 when he was awarded a gold medal in the third Exposition de l’’Industrie in Paris. The US White House Vermeil Room collection also includes works by Jean-Baptiste-Claude Odiot.


Portrait of Jean-Baptiste Odiot by Robert Lefèèvre, 1822

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For more info about Jefferson's love of coffee (click here).

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iconnumber posted 09-20-2004 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FredZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had the pleasure of darkening a complete set for 12 of a current Odiot pattern that had been sent to the dealer in pristine white metal finish. The dealer had some older Odiot of the same pattern and it was interesting to note the wear to the dies used to stamp out the flatware. I do not recall the pattern name. I only know it had hanging fowl and fruit in the pattern depending on what the flatware was used for.

Very heavy in weight and nicely designed.

My hands and fingers were sore for weeks. All hand buffed. I used hot liver of sulfur to darken the silver. Then a fine FFFF pumice to expose the high spots. Then triply and finally rouge. I used a black rouge so as not to leave at reddish tone to the flatware.

Whew!

Fred

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iconnumber posted 10-17-2005 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for akgdc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To clarify (I've just been reading about Monticello's silver), this urn is not actually "by" Odiot, but was evidently retailed by him. It bears the maker's mark of Jacques-Louis Auguste Leguay, and Paris hallmarks for 1787, during TJ's residence there. However, Jefferson's ledger book seems to indicate that he purchased the urn from Odiot's shop ... it was, of course, not an uncommon practice for one silversmith to retail another's work. In fact, the reason there is no surviving pre-1789 silver by JBC Odiot may well be that in that period, he did not mark much (or even any) himself, although he actively sold the work of others.

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Marc

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iconnumber posted 10-23-2005 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everybody,

I happened to pick up a book on ODIOT silver at the Louvre a few years back. It gives great history of the Odiot family, and has all the family marks used (I won the cost of my copy back by using it to settle a bet) throuhout the family history. Additionally, there are lots of color prints of the mouth watering silver the family made.

The book is "Odiot L'orfevre", Three Centuries of Historic Works" , by Jean Marie Pincon and Oliver Gaube duGers, Sous Le Vent
publishers, Paris (I think), 1990. 200 pages, 13" tall and 10" wide, hardcover.

This is a French edition, but the photos
make it worth while, and I can make out most of the descriptions with my pigon french (and a dictionary). There should be an English edition out there somewhere.

Hope this wets the appetite for scrumptious silver.

Marc

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