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ladunn428 Posts: 3 |
posted 01-25-2005 07:35 PM
  
I have identified the silversmith of a Kiddish Cup that I have as JAG - J A Goldman. Does anyone know of the timeframe that he produced his silver. Thanks, Lowell Dunn IP: Logged |
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blakstone Posts: 493 |
posted 01-26-2005 03:02 PM
There was an Israel A. Goldman working in Warsaw in the 1870s, when that part of Poland was under Russian jurisdiction. In his mark - "I. A. Goldman", in script - the initial letter looked far more like a "J" than an "I". Can this be who you mean? What other marks are on the cup? They would provide a much greater clue to the date than the maker's mark alone. Can you post a photograph of the marks and/or the item? IP: Logged |
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ladunn428 Posts: 3 |
posted 01-26-2005 07:27 PM
Thanks for the reply, I am posting a picture of the hallmarks on the cup. I found the identical hallmarks on the web and it listed the maker as JA Goldman Thanks Ladunn
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blakstone Posts: 493 |
posted 01-26-2005 08:47 PM
Yes, that's the mark of Izrael A. Goldman of Warsaw. "Srebra Warszawskie: 1851-1939", v. 2 by Ryszard Bobrow (Warsaw: National Museum, 1991), contains a list of Warsaw makers and the mark you link to is definitely identified therein as his, though the "J" is obscured in Bobrow's photo. (The giveaway is the little elephant, which was Goldman's trademark. Warsaw silversmiths were unusual among Russian makers in that most of them used a unique trademark such as this in addition to their last name and/or initials.) Also, if your mark is exactly like that in the link, then your piece probably dates to the late 1890's. While not proven, it is supposed that this circular Imperial Eagle mark (with no accompanying assayer's initials or date) was one of the "transitional" Russian hallmarks used during the 1897-1899 period. Whether this hypothesis is true or not, Goldman was definitely working by the mid-1870s and the old Imperial double-headed eagle mark was discontinued in 1899, so your piece can at least be dated to the last quarter of the 19th Century. IP: Logged |
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ladunn428 Posts: 3 |
posted 01-26-2005 10:11 PM
Blakstone, Thanks so much for your research. The markings in the photo are identical to the markings on my cup. The piece has been passed down from my mothers great grandmother so I am guessing the late 1890's would be relatively accurate. Thanks IP: Logged |
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