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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 01-14-2006 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anybody help identify where this unusual spoon was made? It is about 5.75" in length. The cast handle is decorated with motifs related to the hunt, including an elk, a satchel, a maniacal dog, and an arrow design. The marks are a fleur-de-lis and the initials TG. Fleurs-de-lis are my bête noire, I can never match the actual marks with the drawings in Hardy.

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iconnumber posted 01-18-2006 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blakstone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, the mark appears to be in imitation of that of the famous French goldsmith François-Thomas Germain (1726-1791), but it is certainly not genuine. Your spoon screams circa 1900 Dutch or German reproduction to me, and the mark undoubtedly one of those countries' notorious pseudo-marks.

J.D. Schleissner & Sons of Hanau, Germany used a faux Germain mark, incorrectly attributed to Ludwig Neresheimer & Co. in some references. Your mark doesn't match it exactly, but it is worn and I suppose it is as safe an attribution as any.

Hope this helps!

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iconnumber posted 01-19-2006 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vathek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
not that this will help with id, but I can't help but notice the wear to the mark yet the front of the spoon looks so crisp. Is this a cause for suspicion?

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 01-19-2006 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hanau was my first suspicion. Some of the designs on the spoon are rather clumsy, stylistically, much more in line with Hanau products than fine old French silver.

The mark is not quite as bad/worn looking in person, nor is the handle quite as good/crisp looking. Basically, the overall wear/patina is commensurate with ~100 years of age, but not with mid-18C manufacture.

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