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Raf Steel

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iconnumber posted 02-10-2006 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raf Steel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if somebody has seen this Russian (?) mark before:

It was stamped on a piece of Belgian silver made by the firm of Wolfers, ca. 1897. Wolfers participated in an exhibition in St-Petersburg and Moskou in 1898-1899. So I assumed that this piece might be one of the pieces that were on that exhibit. I bought the piece in Belgium, so it certainly came back. My guess was that this mark was an import mark, stamped on foreign wares, but I couldn't find it in Tardy or Rosenberg.

Incidentally the piece is 900/1000.

I am right or wrong?

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sazikov2000

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iconnumber posted 02-10-2006 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sazikov2000     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are absolutely right!

This is the Russian import mark: Kokoshnik looking right (1908-17), under the head the Greek letter alpha for St. Petersburg and the silver content 84 zolotniki (875/1000) - the Russians at that time did not know silver with the content of 800/1000 or 900/1000, so they took their own stamp. Before the revolution they imported nearly from all European countries goods (more imports than exports!) and you can find the import mark often on silverware - in certain circles it was chic to have European silver. Personally I doubt that this is a piece fom the exhibition (wrong Kokoshnik!)- as a participant you need no import mark. But Wolfers exported silver from Belgium to Russia. Since 20 years the Russians sell everything with 84 on it to the European market. So your piece came finally back home. In my collection I have many "far-travelled " pieces with interesting stories....

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Raf Steel

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iconnumber posted 02-11-2006 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raf Steel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the elaborate response, as always sazikov, but the head is turned left, not right, so could it be from the 1896-1908 period?

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sazikov2000

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iconnumber posted 02-11-2006 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sazikov2000     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kokoshnik looking right = 1908-1917

Kokoshnik looking left = 1896-1908

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iconnumber posted 02-11-2006 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IJP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Be sure to remember that another key difference between the kokoshnik marks of 1896-1908 and 1908-1917, in addition the the left/right orientation (respectively), is that the earlier kokoshnik is incised (essentially a line drawing), whereas the later is in relief.

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Raf Steel

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iconnumber posted 02-12-2006 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raf Steel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just for fun, here is the culprit: a coupe in silver supported by a putto (one of a series of four seasons, this one winter (skates)). The piece could have been made especially for the St-Petersburg and Moskou shows, which had a commercial purpose: the 900 alloy was at that time most unusual with Wolfers, to me it looks like they wanted to be sure it would pass the '875 test'. 900 plaques were available, but of course no 875 plaques! Another peculiar detail is the fact that the piece is marked on all loose items (on the coupe which is detachable and on the foot) which is unusual again for silver made in Belgium.


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iconnumber posted 02-12-2006 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sazikov2000     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great piece!

On [gone from the internet] you can see a fragment of a centerpiece with Russian import marks. It could be Wolfers but I can not see the European hallmarks clearly. Typical export goods to Russia of that time.

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Raf Steel

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iconnumber posted 02-12-2006 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raf Steel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Unfourtunatly, I am one of those rare human beings whom have absolutely no clue how to search on ebay, so I could't find the picture, sorry.
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