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park1226 Posts: 102 |
posted 06-30-2005 09:04 PM
  
[26-0520] I have had this tea strainer in my collection for 20 years. It is 5" long, cast in parts, and best described as crudely made. There is a stamped scene in the bowl of a milk maid and cow. There is a tiny animal on the curve of the handle. The hallmarks one the top of the handle are not clear. Moreover, I have seen an identical piece with a different set of hallmarks comprised of a sword, sickle, and circular motif. My guess is that this piece is continental and made as a cheap souvenir? I'd like to know where it was made and when. Thanks. IP: Logged |
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blakstone Posts: 493 |
posted 06-30-2005 10:41 PM
Well, I can't say that I've come across the exact marks on your item, but the sword, sickle, etc. on the other one you describe are undoubtedly pseudo marks used by J.D. Schleissner & Sohne of Hanau, Germany. They were active from about 1870 (though they later claimed to have been founded as early as 1808) until at least the 1970s. Their late 19th-early 20th century work tends to be of reasonably high quality, so I think maybe yours is later: post war, or so. As I say, I have not come across these marks before and cannot, therefore, say with absolute certainty that they are Schleissner's. However, I do feel sure that if your item is not by them, it is then from one of their many competitors in Hanau who likewise specialized in reproductions complete with antique-looking marks. IP: Logged |
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park1226 Posts: 102 |
posted 07-01-2005 12:00 PM
Thank you for the very informative reply. I have spent a great deal of time searching "Hanau" and other links in the SMP Forums and educating myself. I am still curious as to what, if anything, dictated how these pseudo trademarks where applied. Randomly, at the discretion of the silver smith, or was there a protocol in place? As the previous thread indicate there were at least two different sets of hall marks used on this particular tea strainer. IP: Logged |
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blakstone Posts: 493 |
posted 07-01-2005 11:12 PM
Hanau pseudo-marks appear to have been applied with utter randomness, with the exception that some care does seem to have been occasionally taken to match the marks with the style of the piece. That is, French style pieces will have "French" style marks, German style pieces "German" ones, etc. This is hardly a rule though, and the marks themselves are totally meaningless. Occasionally, though, you will find a maker's official trademark in along with the false ones, as in the case of Schleissner's sickle as described above and the "KKK in a leaf" of Karl Kurz of Kesselstadt (a suburb of Hanau) as shown in this recent post - Fun Marks.) IP: Logged |
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Antiqueperson Posts: 18 |
posted 07-02-2005 09:09 AM
I know something about the style of this item! Cannot comment on the marks or the fact it is a strainer and not spoon but the style is definitely that of a 'monkey spoon'. 'Monkey spoons' were of Dutch origin and were used to slurp a thick alcoholic punch served at funerals from the 18th through the 19th century. The end was curved so it could hang over the rim of the bowl. Oftentimes the spoons were designed with one particular aspect of the life of the deceased, like an old man in front of a church, an old man and woman, and old man with a cane.I forget the name of the drink these style spoons were made with but it was common in colonial America and there are descriptions of it at parties of long ago.I think once long ago I tried to make it, very thick. IP: Logged |
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park1226 Posts: 102 |
posted 07-02-2005 10:00 AM
Thanks Antiqueperson!! You are exactly right. Please follow this link for a detailed explanation regarding "monkey spoons". The "bosses" pictured in the illustration match the heart-shaped one on my spoon. The drink was a combination of rum and raisins. Some of the spoons were pierced. Here is the link monkey spoons Thanks. This forum is certainly a wealth of information!! IP: Logged |
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