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reikall

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iconnumber posted 09-15-2005 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for reikall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please,.i need help with this marking on a silver spoon and fork. 0.800

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 09-15-2005 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Without a good photo with close ups it is hard to say for certain, but it most likely is saying that the spoon and fork are made out of an alloy of silver and other metals where the silver makes up 800 parts out of a thousand or 80%. This compares to Sterling silver which is an alloy where silver makes up 925 parts out of a thousand or 92.5%. 800 silver is pretty much the lowest grade you will see actually marked as silver.

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reikall

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iconnumber posted 09-15-2005 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for reikall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much,..i think i understand this,....i have also a very old pocketwatch with the same mark (o.800) Is this o.800 used as marking for silver in Europe or?
So this 0.800 are not silverplated, as i tought.

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Ulysses Dietz
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iconnumber posted 09-15-2005 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"800 silver" is always European; more typically northern Europe. The standard was used, with variations, well into the 20th century. The power of the American marketplace forced some makers to switch to 925 sterling standard, but for export.

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 09-15-2005 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Correct, 800 silver is not silver plated, it is an alloy of metals where the silver part makes up 80% of the metal. It is 80% silver all the way through. You still see makers marking things 800 silver even today. I think most of the makers who use 800 silver these days tend to be ones in Asia and Latin America where it seems to be used in tourist trinkets or less expensive jewelry.

When it was being originally used in Europe, the purpose was more to make a metal alloy more durable and long lasting. The purer the silver, the softer it tends to be. On the other hand, most people really want high silver content and are willing to trade off a bit of durability for a higher silver purity and so 925 or Sterling is now the standard. It is kind of like gold where 14 or 18 K is the standard for jewelry, although you can find some older objects that are 9 or 10 or 12 K and which are more durable than the higher gold content forms that are today's standard.

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reikall

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iconnumber posted 09-15-2005 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for reikall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you ...i understand now,..but the the 0 before the 800 (O.800) make my confused.
I have not seen that before.

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iconnumber posted 09-18-2005 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I need to correct myself. I was completely forgetting about Mexican and South American silver, of which there is a lot. You also find the 800 standard used there.

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