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sazikov2000

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iconnumber posted 06-27-2005 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sazikov2000     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

A Russian spoon in the original box as it was sold at that time. The manufacturer is Ivan Petrowitsch Khlebnikov (1819-1881).

Klebnikov I. P., Sons & Co.
The company (tovarischestvo) was founded in 1888 to replace the firm which existed since 1840. The greatest contribution was that of Ivan Petrovich Khlebnikov, Moscow merchant of the second gild (his father was merchant since 1832). In 1881-1914 the factory employed 150-250 workers, output 350 thousand rubles. Since 1877 had a shop in St. Petersburg (building of the Discount Bank in Nevsky Prospect). After Khlebnikov's death the business passed on to his sons Mikhail, Alexej, Nikolai and Vladimir (from 1879 on).

The firm received many awards (Polytechnical Exhibition 1875, Mitava 1875, Philadelphia 1876, Paris 1878 and 1889, Nice 1883, Riga 1884. "State Emblem" for the exhibition of 1882 in Moscow, awards for exhibitions in Copenhagen, Amsterdam, etc. The firm existed until 1918. Supplier to the Court of Great Prince's Konstantin Nikolajewitsch from 1876. Court Supplier from 1881.
The firm was one of the best of Russia.

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IJP

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iconnumber posted 06-27-2005 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IJP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sazikov, your Russian must be very good. If I recall correctly, that is an exact translation of the Postnikova-Loseva entry on Khlebnikov.

I am currently reading and attempting to translate each of the entries for several important Russian makers, including the Brothers Grachev, Khlebnikov, Ovchinnikov, Faberge, Morozov, and others.

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iconnumber posted 06-28-2005 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IJP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I purchased these only yesterday. They are the very first examples of Russian silver for my newborn collection.

I have identified the maker as N. D. Yanichkin of St. Petersburg, active 1888-1895. The assay mark is the St. Petersburg stamp used in the last quarter of the 19th century.

I am only just beginning to learn about Russian silver and its makers, and I cannot say at this point how the culture and habits of Russians in the past several hundred years affected the emergence of piece types. I was reading the Postnikova-Loseva chapter on Russian piece types, more specifically of spoons. Are these coffee spoons? Postnikova-Loseva explains that coffee spoons are distinguished from teaspoons only by their smaller size, and that teaspoons may have oval or round bowls. These spoons measure 4 ¼ inches in length.

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iconnumber posted 06-28-2005 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sazikov2000     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IJP, congratulations, nice spoons! This are coffee spoons, but it is only academic, there are many different sizes, every typ nearly has another size.

First row: coffee spoons
second row: tea spoons

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tmockait

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iconnumber posted 06-28-2005 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmockait     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find that Russian spoons are among the most fun to collect because of their complex hallmarks and intricate designs. Here are a couple I have picked up.

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IJP

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iconnumber posted 07-11-2005 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IJP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...And here are four more I just acquired today!

I was unable to inspect the marks before purchasing them, but my novice reasoning told me that they looked typical of Russian work, and were pretty, anyway.

Notice the embellishments on the backs of the bowls. Looks to me (again, novice understanding of Russian silver work) like niello, in relief, perhaps etched? There lies within the scrollwork several alphabetical figures. Should I assume that they designated the original owner? Looks like perhaps АИ or АЦ, or maybe even ЛГЦ, if the Г is laid across the Л

The spoons are all marked the same (With the macro function on my digital camera, I can only focus on one at a time). Looks like the assay master's mark of Viktor Savinkov for 1871, plus the St. George Moscow mark, of course the 84 zolotnik mark, and the maker's mark appears to be on the right, but looks far too small to distinguish, even with a loupe. What do you think of these, S2K? ... And do these appear gilded to anyone else?

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iconnumber posted 07-11-2005 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sazikov2000     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IJP,
once again, very nice spoons. Silver gilded with niello. Typical order work in very good, nearly unused condition. Maybe it is possible to get a better foto of the master, I think he is one of the better names. My guess: CA, Latin SA, Agafonof Sergeij Iwanowitsch.

Sazikov 2000

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IJP

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iconnumber posted 07-12-2005 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IJP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Sergei Agafanov was among my selected candidates. On the maker's mark, even on close inspection only the first C ("ess" or "S") is identifiable. The second character cannot be identified. My other possible choices were S.M. Ikonnikov (#2872-73), Sem. Andr. Myasoedov (#2886), Sergei Nikol. Orlov (#2896), Stepan Prokhorov (#2898), and S. Stroganov (#2908). All were working around the time of these spoons' manufacture. The last of these is known to have worked in niello. The more I inspect them, the more some of them seem to be stamped CC, but that may only be power of suggestion.

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iconnumber posted 08-10-2005 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sazikov2000     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some spoons (12)niello/gildet with the important churches of Russia. It is very difficult to find 12 complete spoons - the Russians sell them single. Workmaster Agafonov, 1866

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IJP

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iconnumber posted 08-10-2005 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IJP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, S2K, those are very nice. I'd love to find a set of spoons (or a set of anything, for that matter) with niello decoration of architectural imagery. This seems to have been very popular in the late 19th century. There is a Vasilii Semyonov fruit compote with 12 matching spoons at the Oruzhenaya Palata (Kremlin Armoury) each with architectural scenes similar to those above. I've also seen a Khlebnikov tea set with architectural images on each pot.

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iconnumber posted 05-26-2006 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IJP     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Scott, for restoring S2K's wonderful images. Just wanted to point out, though, that this thread was mistakenly moved to the American Sterling forum, rather than probably the Continental/International forum.

Once this is moved where appropriate, I will have to re-write my links on the several other threads where I've made mention of this discussion—I suppose there's no easy way to make sure that members' links to moved threads continue to link properly?

Nothing more to add: This post is just to make moderators aware of the error so it can be moved to the appropriate place. Feel free to delete these remarks once done.

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