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cocomo11@msn.com
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iconnumber posted 10-21-2002 01:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a silver flatware item that has a tightener screw on the side above the handle. I thought maybe some type of cork puller. Markings are B T _ E
S.G.D.G.
Can anyone tell me what it is and a little history? I can't find anything on it.

Flatware handle looks like a large knife handle apx. 5" X 1". Upper section is apx. 3" with two sections w/3 leaf shapes that have a silver type screw clamp on the side that tightens the two sides. Feels heavy.

email cocomo11@msn.com Vickie

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Ulysses Dietz
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iconnumber posted 10-21-2002 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to take a stab at this, because I know I've seen them before. I think this is a joint holder (as in joint of mutton). But I might be imagining something different from what you actually have. Maybe this suggestion, being terribly wrong, will prompt a correct response from the ether!

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iconnumber posted 10-22-2002 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It does sound like a joint holder (some may say a bone holder). A photo would help.

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iconnumber posted 10-22-2002 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FredZ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My only imput is the possibility that it is German.. If I recall correctly, S.G.D.G.
is used in Germany to signify manufacturing in the country... I do not know what the initials stand for. I have a bracelet with the identical initials.

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iconnumber posted 10-27-2002 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are the photos from Vickie:



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iconnumber posted 10-27-2002 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for smfc75     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The marks could be BTÉ and S.G.D.G.

These are French patent markings representing "breveté" which indicates that the design incorporated one or more patents, and "sans garantie du gouvernement" which was a disclaimer required by the French government stating that it didn't guarantee enforcement of the patent(s).

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iconnumber posted 10-28-2002 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ulysses Dietz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I learn something new every day!

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iconnumber posted 10-28-2002 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Arg(um)entum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The business end of this piece is probably plated steel (maybe chromed?) but the handle looks like silver. If it is then, now that we know that it is french, there should be at least one mark on it. Can you find any, Cocomo?

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iconnumber posted 10-29-2002 02:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The only marking I can see is the French Markings BT_E' and S.G.D.G.on the top above the screw. Is there something else I should be looking for?
The weight is 4 1/2 oz. if that helps. The handle definitely looks solid silver, the top portion has a little gray tarnish on the screw portion.

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iconnumber posted 10-30-2002 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Arg(um)entum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Somewhere on the handle. There should be a Minerve (about 1/10inch fairly square) and a Maker's that could be a bit larger or smaller. It may look like a large pit before you clean it (toothpick only!).
If there is no mark, then you have to think 'silverplated' - I don't know when they introduced marks for plated stuff but solid silver without one is fairly improbable.

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iconnumber posted 11-01-2002 12:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found them!!! But will have to have someone help me. I can barely see them. Looks like maybe a letter or number??!

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iconnumber posted 11-07-2002 01:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can't tell. It is to small. Any ideas as to where to sell this piece of silver would be appreciated. Thanks!

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