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kerppola

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iconnumber posted 01-10-2007 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kerppola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Russian charka. I have found out that the charka is from Moscow, from 1862 and the assayer has been A.Svechin. The silversmith is IA which I don't know.

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Kayvee

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iconnumber posted 01-11-2007 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kayvee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The maker's mark looks dark on my monitor. Is there a dot between the two letters of the mark?

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kerppola

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iconnumber posted 01-11-2007 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kerppola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No dot between the maker's mark letters.

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FWG

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iconnumber posted 01-11-2007 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FWG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are two different IA marks listed for an unidentified master in Moscow 1846-62 in Postnikova-Loseva et al., with one of them (2470 in the 1983 ed.) resembling this mark but with a pellet between the letters. The other masters listed for Moscow with those initials are later. I'd take as a starting assumption that this unidentified master is your maker, with another mark.

Given the amount of Russian silver you're dealing with, I'd suggest it worthwhile to try to get at least a photocopy of Postnikova-Loseva et al. A university library near you may well have it (there are, at least, editions of 1967, 1983, 1995, and 2003), and the marks section of just over 200 pages copies well.

[This message has been edited by FWG (edited 01-11-2007).]

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kerppola

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iconnumber posted 01-11-2007 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kerppola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your comments. I have been trying to find more catalogs on russian marks. Unfortunately not finding yet from general bookstores and antiquarian bookstores. I will try the university liberies. Unfortunately I don't have a credit card so I could order this kind of books from Amazon. I have currently only the P.L.Paulson catalog. It is very good but a little outdated.

I will put up the Postnikova-Loseva in the list of good books to get. I would also like to get the Russian gold and silverwork, 17th-19th century by Alexander von Solodkoff.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 01-11-2007 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dorothee posted 01-11-2007 03:11 PM in the New Members' Forum
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Someone put this where it belongs!

Assaymaster = A. Swetschin 1862 - 1875
Master IA = Aleksejev, Aleksejewitsch Vladelets

Regards
Dorothee


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kerppola

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iconnumber posted 01-12-2007 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kerppola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent, many thanks again!

Regards,
Juhana

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