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debbielus

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iconnumber posted 02-19-2006 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for debbielus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tried to post in jewelry but site wouldn't allow it since I am new!

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Very pretty necklace, definitely early and not a repro - gorgeous faceted stones - any information would be very much appreciated. Is this a early plate mark, sterling, gold? (G first letter) - I have no idea!

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 02-19-2006 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ummm, does the necklace appear to be silver or gold? I could not tell from your photographs. What sort of stones are these?

Perhaps if you could tell us more about why you wish to know the maker we might be able to help you. In general, many silversmiths made jewelry. But, and this is important, many workers in silver jewelry used marks that made no imprint on our records. There is a whole lot of marked silver jewelry where there is no clue about who the maker was.

Could you give us a description of the marks. There appears to be a shield with three sheaves of wheat. In English silver that is the mark for Chester, I think.

Just a mark is not enough information to work from. We need to know more. And why you are asking. Location helps too: if you are in Riga, Latvia things spring to mind. If you are in Keokuk, Iowa other things spring to mind.

Good Luck.

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Dale

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iconnumber posted 02-19-2006 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you looking for information in order to sell this?

[This message has been edited by Dale (edited 02-19-2006).]

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FWG

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iconnumber posted 02-20-2006 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FWG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's Swedish silver, apparently by Jacob Borg of Gävle. But he died in 1871, and the date mark on this appears to be M6 (=1890); Holmquist doesn't mention the firm continuing.

Another possibility is Johan Bloom of Karlshamm. He was working in 1890, but the Karlshamm city mark is a C -- it does have a bit of a rise, but this piece really looks more like a G than a C.

In any case clearly Swedish silver.

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swarter
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iconnumber posted 02-20-2006 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hard to tell from the photograph, but could the maker's mark be TB rather than IB ?

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FWG

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iconnumber posted 02-21-2006 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FWG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On my monitor it looks clearly to be JB....

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iconnumber posted 02-21-2006 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps so, if the tail of the J is intended to be looprd, but I cannot see a connection between what looks like a pellet and the vertical bar of the letter. If it is a J, then perhaps it is an imperfect strike.

Cleaning out the accumulated dirt from the mark might help clarify things (especially the G) - try soap and water on an old toothbrush.

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