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wizard Posts: 78 |
posted 11-24-2008 12:12 PM
  
I purchased these as Lithuanian 19th c. candlesticks but have been unable to confirm origin or makers/assay marks as shown.Any help would be appreciated. I'm afraid the marks are upside down...will try to right them. IP: Logged |
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Dale Posts: 2132 |
posted 11-27-2008 05:27 PM
In the 19th century, Lithuania was in the Pale, the area where Jews were allowed to settle. Silver from this area is frequently refered to as 'Shabbots silver', ie silver used on the sabbath. The marks are not very well understood. Typically the candle sticks would have had an associated bread basket with handle. The marks appear genuine. The letter 'i' does occur in Czarist Cyrilic, AIR. Beyond that, no help. They could have been made in Lithuania. Or an enterprising immigrant might have brought them with him to the New World and made these in Brooklyn. IP: Logged |
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wizard Posts: 78 |
posted 11-27-2008 07:30 PM
Thanks for your insight Dale. I do believe they were made in Europe since they were purchased there. I have not been able to find any "purely" Lithuanian makers or assayers marks in any of my sources. Perhaps others will weigh in? Wizard IP: Logged |
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Dale Posts: 2132 |
posted 11-28-2008 06:21 PM
In the 19th century, Lithuania was part of the Russian empire, so the expectation is that silver would be marked in the Russian style. Or in some sort of local system. Don't know if the oval cartouche is a city mark or not. Others here may have a better idea of how to identify Lithuanian silver. IP: Logged |
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blakstone Posts: 493 |
posted 11-29-2008 02:38 AM
The standard reference for Lithuanian silver is E. Lauceviczius & B.R. Vitkauskiene's Lietuvos Auksakalyste XV-XIX Amzius [Lithuanian Goldsmiths of the 15th-19th Centuries] (Vilno: Baltos Lankos, 2001). It's pretty exhaustive, and these marks aren't in it. My gut reaction looking at these candlesticks is 2nd quarter 19th century Prussian: that part of Central Europe which now spans Eastern Germany & Western Poland. They look very much like the output of Berlin or Breslau in the 1830s & 40s. But I certainly couldn't rule out one of the Baltic states, at least on stylistic grounds. I've checked just about every reference I have and can't find any match for the marks in Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland or Germany. I confess that I'm stumped. Can you post a larger image of the marks, including the ones on the other candlestick? IP: Logged |
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Dale Posts: 2132 |
posted 11-29-2008 07:27 PM
IMHE candle sticks of this type are usually handled by dealers in Judaica. Makers who made only for the Jewish ritual market worked outside of the regular silver making system. Somewhere I once encountered a guide to these makers, but can't remember what it is. IP: Logged |
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