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robelle

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iconnumber posted 02-07-2006 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for robelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have looked in Tardy's for these marks and had no luck. These marks are on the bottom a metal box which I have not determined if it is sterling or something else. The box also has Germany impressed in a different spot. I'm hoping someone recognizes these marks.

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tmockait

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iconnumber posted 02-07-2006 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmockait     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The word "Germany" may be the clue. Since 1888, German silver has borne an official crown and crescent moon symbol as shown in Tardy. Becaue this piece bears no such mark and says "Germany" as opposed to "Deutschland," I suspect it may be silver plate intended for export or to be sold as a souvenir. Also, as I understand it solid German silver was not usually "sterling" (92.5%) until after WWII. The standard was 800 with some pieces of higher purity.

Tom

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Raf Steel

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iconnumber posted 02-10-2006 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raf Steel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a remark: the crescent and crown are not always struck on German silver, if it is destined for export. These pieces only carry the alloy (800 in most cases).
As for 'Deutschland', I have never seen this on any German piece, Tom, do you have an example?

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tmockait

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iconnumber posted 02-10-2006 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmockait     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, which is why I questioned if this piece is silver. My point is simply that if it were for domestic sale, it would not be stampled with the English word. Use of "German" might support your claim that the piece was for export, but I am still not sure it is silver.

Tom

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Raf Steel

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iconnumber posted 02-12-2006 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raf Steel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had to look for it for a while in my 'spoon archive', but I found it: silver spoon, marked "Germany" and with "800", no crown and crescent, made for export by Vereinigte Silberwarenfabrik Düsseldorf, 1930's.

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mheaton

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iconnumber posted 02-13-2006 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mheaton     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well I still don't know if it is sterling or silverplated and the age. It is a silver box lined with wood. There is a small tear in one corner, and it has embossed cherubs allover. The lid is not lined with wood and it feels pretty heavy. Wish someone knew this mark.

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tmockait

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iconnumber posted 02-13-2006 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmockait     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neither one. 800 means solid silver, 80% pure. Sterling is 92.5% pure.

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