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Brent

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iconnumber posted 06-04-2009 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


Hello all,

Here is a rather nondescript spoon with some marks that trouble me. The marks are an [84] flanked by two devices, apparently the same but struck in two directions. Because of the 84 I am leaning towards a Russian provincial attribution, but have been unable to pin it down.

Any help?

Brent

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vathek

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iconnumber posted 06-04-2009 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vathek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Possibly Chinese? they sometimes just stuck on some number but if tested would probably be higher or lower.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 06-04-2009 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have never seen anything that resembles this grouping of marks. The 84 makes me think Russian. The other marks are not at all familiar. If I use a little imagination about the other marks, they could be the German crescent moon crown. With a little more imagination there is something Chinese'ish going on.

smile Perhaps made during the time of the Soviet army arrival in Germany?

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bascall

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iconnumber posted 06-04-2009 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bascall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can vaguely see it as a crude German silver mark using the one on the right to go by?

On second thought, I don't have any good ideas. Even a crude German mark would be a mirror image. The Chinese suggestion seems to be the best one to me so far.

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FWG

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Perhaps somewhere like Manchuria or Mongolia, disputed territories that changed hands at times? That situation could be akin to the one discussed elsewhere with 84 marks on Japanese-design pieces, which is also not really documented to my knowledge.

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Brent

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iconnumber posted 06-11-2009 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,

Thank you all for your input. I like FWGs idea of a far-eastern origin, perhaps Chinese for a Russian market, or Manchurian. I did get it with a pair of Chinese export teas, so perhaps they were all from the same estate.

Please let me know if anyone sees anything similar. I love a mystery@

Brent

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