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artlibrarian

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iconnumber posted 04-17-2006 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for artlibrarian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone decipher these marks? This lovely repousse dish is stamped "Germany" in one area, also has 3 stamps underneath that look like a G with Crown, an R with Crown, an A with Crown (Paris?) and also a stamp above one empty cartouche that looks vaguely like a four legged animal. If it says" Germany" in English, doesn't that mean it was made (or imported to US) after 1891? As always, the help is much appreciated.

ps, I figured out how to size my photo to 490 x 368. Do I still need to re-size in photobucket?

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Raf Steel

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iconnumber posted 04-17-2006 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Raf Steel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most certainly one of the Hanau makers, with phantasy marks. A lot of these firms exported to England and the US, hence the stamp 'Germany'. I'm not so sure about the four legged animal.
The 'Paris' A is very comon on Hanau pieces, but I don't know exacltly who made it.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 04-17-2006 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The image sizes & posting look good.
Thanks.

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venus

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iconnumber posted 04-17-2006 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice little dish there, I tend to like my silver fancy, even gaudy. Maybe I was a Victorian in my past life? My office was built in 1900 and I love antiques. wink Anyhow this is off subject but I have been looking for an art forum similair to the silver forum here. I have a rather nice painting, which I think may have been painted in the 1800's, maybe in Boston area. Your user name made me think that you may know of an art forum, so the reason behind my question.

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artlibrarian

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iconnumber posted 04-17-2006 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for artlibrarian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Raf, the whole concept of Hanau is unfamiliar to me so I am reading up on it.

Scott, thanks for the feedback.

Venus, I don't know of any other open forum as erudite as this one. Is your piece signed? Can we discuss thIs some other way than through this forum?

Thanks all

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blakstone

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iconnumber posted 04-17-2006 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blakstone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definitely Hanau. And the first mark - slightly rubbed here but reading GR, crowned - identifies the maker: Georg Roth & Co. of Hanau, silver manufacturer specializing in antique reproductions, founded in 1891. They are still listed in 1903, owned by Georg Roth and his wife Katharina ne Welsch. They are not listed in my copy of the 1925 German silversmith's yearbook, so I suspect they were either out of business or assumed by another company by that time.

And the second mark is a "P", also in imitation of the old Paris mark; it and the "A" are both recorded as having been used by Roth. The other mark - the animal?- looks vaguely official, perhaps an import mark , but it's just to indistinct for me to say more.

Hope this helps!

[This message has been edited by blakstone (edited 04-17-2006).]

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iconnumber posted 04-17-2006 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for artlibrarian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Blakstone, you rock!! Thanks very much for the detailed info.

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