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wizard

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iconnumber posted 11-26-2010 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wizard     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Can anyone help with identifying these marks on a silver Mezuza which is a religious doorpost container?

I believe it is from St Petersburg, 1873, assayer IE, who is unknown; Maker AXC, Cyrillic. Also an anchor mark which I believed was Polish for Karol Malcz so this is confusing me.


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iconnumber posted 11-26-2010 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agphile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The set of marks with an anchor look like post 1890 Birmingham hallmarks (no duty mark) but I cannot make out the maker or recognise the date letter (not my period so my reference books are light on 19th century Birmingham). Might the item have been imported to one or the other country?

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iconnumber posted 11-26-2010 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wizard     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks for your thoughts, but I'm fairly certain the item is Russian with IE being the unknown assayer in 1873. The anchor is usually the mark of Karol Malcz, Polish (1797-1867) . I don't think it's English.
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iconnumber posted 11-26-2010 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agphile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But the combination of a maker's mark with the anchor, date letter and lion passant, the last three in a combined punch, seems very English. If the item had been imported to England it would have had to be assayed and marked regardless of any marks from its country of origin before it could legally be sold as silver so I wouldn't discount the Birmingham anchor completely, but let's see what others think..

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Postnikov

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iconnumber posted 11-26-2010 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Postnikov     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi -

The Russian marks are phantasy marks (fake)!
The English marks look like fake marks too.

The anchor mark (trade mark) of K.Malcz/ Warzaw looks completely different than this pseudo Birmingham mark.

Assayer ИE (IJe) from St. Petersburg is not unknown, it is Jevstignejev Ivan, on duty 1870-1891.

All this lately sold "Judaica" are fakes. The internet is full of them....

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wizard

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iconnumber posted 11-26-2010 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wizard     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe Postnikov is right on; the multiple marks were very suspicious to me as well and Malcz always stamped his name on the Polish silver that I have along with the anchor. At least I learned who the assayer is ....if it wasn't fake which I am now sure that it is. thanks to all for a great forum site.
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