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silverhunter

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iconnumber posted 10-01-2007 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverhunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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From a lot of silver (mostly silverplated) articles I try to collect one exemple, so this is the first one I found today. I think(I hope) it's a old pattern. Two stamps I found in the rand of the feet. The left mark are standing the letters A *(star)B and above these letters are standing three stars ***. Under the letters is a figure like a banana.The letters are stading in a cirkel. The cirkel is placed in a square. Between the space of the cirkel and rand of the square are lines placed horizontal.

The other mark (at the right side) is placed also in the rand of the feet.
In a square stand the worth BLANC, below that worth is placed a star. In each corner there is a line decoration.

Measures of this eggshell are:

Total High 2.6 inches.
Feet is wide 1.4 inch.
Upside is wide 1.6 inch.
Weight is 55 gram.

The eggshall doesn't stand right vertical, but that will be the age I think.
Photo no.4 is made inside of the feet and gives a picture of production?
Perhaps it's a dutch eggshall I try to find out myself, but if someone will and can give
information about this one I will be helped a lot.

Thank you very much, silverhunter.

Some photo's are included.


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Kayvee

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iconnumber posted 10-01-2007 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kayvee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The shape, size and placement of the marks on your cup show that it is silverplate from France. Please compare this mark to the Christofle mark you posted yesterday, and you will see that it is a French mark. This type of square mark on French silverplated items was in use from 1860 to 1983. The initials are those of the maker. The stars and crescent moon (not a banana!) are symbols used by the maker to distinguish his mark, like the stars, scales, bee and palm fronds are Christofle’s symbols. Could the initials be HB instead of AB? If so, I believe they are those of Henry Blanc who worked in the first quarter of the 20th Century. I am not totally convinced this is an egg cup because the rim is quite everted. Best way is to test it with an egg to see if it is stable! Do you think it could be a liqueur goblet?
Silverhunter, I appreciate your enthusiasm for your new hobby and your story about fishing silver out of a ditch is one of the best silver stories I have ever heard. In the spirit of friendliness I would like to suggest to you that it might be time to begin to learn about how to read marks on silver and what they mean. This knowledge will help you in your hunt for silver items to add to your collection and I think would deepen your enjoyment of your hobby. It takes patience to learn about marks, but with a good book either purchased or borrowed from your public library, you will start to identify marks very quickly.
Do you know that there is a club for silver lovers in the Netherlands called the Zilverclub? They publish a bulletin 4 times a year, and arrange study trips and visits to museums in your country. This group could also help you learn more about silver. Contact the secretary Annelies Krekel-Aalberse at krekel.aalberse@inter.nl.net for more information. Best of luck.

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silverhunter

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iconnumber posted 10-01-2007 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverhunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Kayvee, thank you again for your information and advise. In the beginning this summer I just started (lucky) with collecting silver like you have read in a other topic. I got a lot of information at this forum also from a lot of members,who recognized the norwegian silver and a few other objects. Ofcourse I have tried to learn a little more about silver meanwhile, but it is just a lot of information.
I saw that you started in 2004 and perhaps therefore you were already interested in silver.
I also bought a cd with information about international silver, gold and platina marks etc. This one helped me also with information.
I think I must keep my attention more at one country or item, like for instance you are interested in French Silverobjects.
In recognize also the crescent moon for instance in some silvermarks from Holland which I found for instance on two dutch candlesticks. There are also squere silvermarks in Holland, also with a star, or stars stamped and with only two letters/initials.
The difference what I see is that the few French silverplated objects I have, are (personal opinion ofcourse!) more difficult to find out than for instance silverwork from Norway from around 1920. Name and silver alloy, that I found more a direct giving result for research further, than a few stars and two letters placed in a stamp.
I just have controlled about 300 marks this morning if it could be a dutch mark. Most silversmiths around late 18th and 19th century also used square marks over here. Using two letters or a personal symbol.
I also have read that in the USA has lived and worked about 3600 silver/goldsmiths from 1650 till 1900.
I wrote before that for instance, the local library doesn't have any information about foreign silver objects. Only a few from Holland.
It's poor illustrated. The local bookshop can't order a silverbook over the border.
Service isn't to find in that shop.
About Norwegian silver I know now some and considering about French silver I have to learn much more.
About the letters(initials)I'm sure it is a A and B (yes, with four stars!).
For liquer it's a very small size and I tried an dutch egg (un oeuf Hollandaise)and it stands stable till 12 beaufort. I will look at the link you gave me about the dutch Zilver group.(thanks a lot!).
About the worth BLANC I don't know if that's only counts for France, because I have also a spoon and I think from England.
I show two photo's with the marks and also the worths extra Blanc in combination.
Just for to compare.
So personal I'm not sure if it's 100 percent French after comparing other possibilities.
I hope you will react about this and thank you for giving all that information.
Greetings
Silverhunter.


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