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ahwt Posts: 2334 Registered: Mar 2003	posted 02-21-2011 06:25 PM I found this bright cut ladle last weekend and thought it was interesting. With the monogram on the back of the handle I think it is from mainland Europe. The monogram has the initials HT and the year 1822 with a word in front of the year that may indicate the month. The interesting thing for me is that the handle appears to be soldered onto the bowl. None of the other ladles that I have were made this way and I really do not recall ever seeing one with this construction. Was this a common method of construction in any country in Europe? The only maker’s mark is the partial initials shown. The last letter is an L and one looks like the number 2. The first letter is not clear to me. It does seem unusual that there in not a town mark or an assayers mark. The last thing that is interesting is that it was sold for its scrap value. I do not need another ladle, but it was too pretty to let it go for scrap. IP: Logged
agphile Posts: 798 Registered: Apr 2008	posted 02-21-2011 06:55 PM Just guessing. Might the mark be 12 L for 12 loth silver? The initials before the inscribed date look to me like Wwe. If it is indeed 12 loth silver from a German speaking area, I would think this stands for Witwe (widow)as the status of the owner of the initials. Some much earlier continental flatware was made in two pieces and I suppose the tradition may have continued in places. [This message has been edited by agphile (edited 02-21-2011).] IP: Logged
ahwt Posts: 2334 Registered: Mar 2003	posted 02-21-2011 09:33 PM Thank you Agphile. The 12 loth must be correct. The bright cut style predated (at least in the U.S.) 1822 by 20 or 30 years and perhaps the widow engraved this ladle on the death of her husband. IP: Logged
vathek Posts: 966 Registered: Jun 99	posted 02-22-2011 07:08 AM If witwe is correct one wonders if she had all of her silver engraved so. IP: Logged
agphile Posts: 798 Registered: Apr 2008	posted 02-22-2011 05:16 PM Some further thoughts. The 12 and the L seemto be separate punches so the L could be a maker's or town mark. The solder join could mean that a damaged bowl has been replaced. I have an old spoon that has certainly been subjected to such a repair. I won't go to the stake for Witwe, but I cannot think of any other interpretation. Whatever, I think it an interesting piece and am pleased you have saved it. IP: Logged
Hose_dk Posts: 400 Registered: May 2008	posted 02-24-2011 12:58 AM 12L would be silver contenth. Germany is very likely. The bright cut pattern would support that - ie a very common pattern in a possible number of countries. I don't believe in Widow - no way, Is the letters W and what is the rest 2 letters? Could it be weihnacht that would be more likely. IP: Logged

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