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silverhunter Posts: 704 Registered: Jul 2007	posted 08-09-2007 02:40 PM [26-1470] Hello to you all, About this glass holder I've tried to find information first myself. I've my doubts, for instance about the city were this one is produced? The name of the silversmith is unknown and in which period it is made. I suppose that this (tea?)glass holder is made in Germany, the mark with the horse can be connected with the German city Stuttgart?.(I'm not sure!) Down under the marks of the letter S and the horse mark, is the letter B engraved. The letter V (old fashioned engraved) is probable the silversmith?.I hope someone can tell me about this silver glass holder. It's nice when you find out, after cleaning a object and you find some marks and be curious and interested for the meaning of these one's. Have they made a lot of these kind of glass holders in this period and in which countries are they made? I saw a few Russian specimen. The 830 s mark they used until around 1920 (in Norway) that's what I know and the silver alloy of 800 is used in Germany so I'm looking forward to reaction/s and if this one is from Germany? Thanks a lot Silverhunter. IP: Logged
Kayvee Posts: 204 Registered: Oct 2004	posted 08-09-2007 06:43 PM Your silver holder has the marks for objects made in Germany after 1888. Perhaps some member of the Forums will be able to tell you the maker, but it is not V. V is a Netherlands mark for objects imported after 1906. Hope this helps a little in your search for information. IP: Logged
Kimo Posts: 1627 Registered: Mar 2003	posted 08-09-2007 06:49 PM I am not an expert on German marks but this appears to me to be German. Beginning in 1884, all German silver was required to be marked with the half-moon and crown, the silver fineness, and the maker's mark. The 830 mark is the fineness and means the silver is 83% pure which is slightly above the 800 standard which means 80% pure, but below the sterling standard which is 92.5% pure. I do not know the makers marks. By the way this is called a zarf and it is made to hold a glass for hot tea. They have been made for a very long time and there are some makers still producing them. They seem to be most commonly seen in Russia, but they are also easily found having been made by companies throughout continental Europe. IP: Logged
blakstone Posts: 493 Registered: Jul 2004	posted 08-10-2007 12:00 AM The manufacturer is Gebrüder Kühn (Kuehn Brothers) of Schwäbisch Gmünd, Germany, founded in 1860 and still in business.. (Their logo is a rampant unicorn - not a horse - taken from the city arms of Schwäbisch Gmünd.) The Dutch import mark was discontinued in 1953, so that dates your zarf to the first half of the 20th century; my guess would be the 1920's or 30's. IP: Logged
silverhunter Posts: 704 Registered: Jul 2007	posted 08-10-2007 03:22 AM Good day to you, This morning I first looked if there was any reaction,it's nice to have got some, so thank you a lot Kaynee, Kimo and Blakstone for this interesting information. The information I will notice on a card in combination with the Zarf to put it together(in my show window). (Blakstone, I also did combinate the information that you gave about the spoon from Kaliningrad) So slowly the knowledge is growing but I'm glad with all information. A lot of succes with the hobby to you all and thank you very much for the time you have taken for giving reaction, I appriciated it a lot. Greetings Silverhunter. IP: Logged

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