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karaffensammler_at

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iconnumber posted 09-11-2008 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for karaffensammler_at     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hello to this wonderful forum -

I collect claret jugs.


best wishes ,
Tom

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kerppola

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iconnumber posted 09-13-2008 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kerppola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The marks seem to be fakes of silversmiths C.E.Bolin and K?. I can not see clearly the other letter. Is it Cyrillic KF for Faberg� which would make it even for cautious.

It is of course easy to say that the marks are fakes but there are some things that one makes wonder. First of all there seems to missing the assayer's mark with the year mark. Also why are there two silversmith marks, the other one could be of course a supplier but anyway. Also the look of the marks seems a little odd and not exactly what one would expect.

I agree that the claret jug is of excellent quality and itself could be old even if the marks are fakes.

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iconnumber posted 09-13-2008 04:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for karaffensammler_at     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
to kerppola,

The KL stands for Konstantin Linke ! I think ... I do not know what to think - I looked a hundred time to this Russian jug - but I am not sure - ....

The best joke I ever heard was in London when some dealers talked about a painted jug if it is old or a fake - and somebody said: "The painting is old the jug is new" smile

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iconnumber posted 09-14-2008 05:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kerppola     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As the marks are suspicious and not logical it is a clear indication of a fake as said earlier. Typically forgers makes some mistake in faking the marks and here it can be seen so I would lean towards that the claret jug is fake as you said in the beginning. Unfortunately all the findings are not great founds.

Collectors who see a lot of silver (like me) stumble to objects for sale that were fake. First they seem nice but then there are something wrong with the marks.

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