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Mad Collector Posts: 3 Registered: May 2009	posted 11-30-2009 09:08 AM [26-1932] Hi, I have had these sugar nips for quite a while now and had resigned myself to never finding the smith, that was till I found this site and was amazed at the expertise of some members thus giving me new hope. The nips carry the Estonian hallmark (although I think they are Russian) and the silversmiths mark :- a person sat at an anvil. I would appreciate and help. [ I also have a table spoon with a smiths mark:- S co if anyone can help. IP: Logged
Postnikov Posts: 133 Registered: Nov 2009	posted 11-30-2009 12:16 PM Hi - your sugar tongs are Estonian made( though in the Russian pattern) in the years 1922 - 1940. Silvercontent 875/1000. I try to hunt down the maker for over 20 years - no success! Let�s see a photo of the spoon�s mark, maybe I can help. Regards Postnikov IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 11-30-2009 12:23 PM Postnikov, Please wait & let the new member introduce themselves before answering. Thanks. IP: Logged
Mad Collector Posts: 3 Registered: May 2009	posted 11-30-2009 07:28 PM Hi, and sorry if i jumped the gun a little. My name is Chris and i've been interested in silver for about 20 years, my interest is mainly in collecting rare marks or unusual pieces, although i do buy items with odd or unfamiliar marks just so i can research and further my knowledge and thus have ended up with a mountain of books but it seems you can never have enough. I do hope i will be able to give some input at some stage, but i think you guys are on a different level. Thanks for the reply Postnikov and as soon as i get some pics of the spoon i will post them. Best Regards. Chris. IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 Registered: Apr 93	posted 11-30-2009 10:10 PM Thank you Chris. I look forward to your future posts. IP: Logged
Postnikov Posts: 133 Registered: Nov 2009	posted 12-01-2009 11:06 AM Hi - after many years of searching I finally found the mark! It is Saint Eligius, the patron of the goldsmiths and it belonged to Joseph Kopf (1867 - 1930), one of the best goldsmiths in Estonia. His family(from Germany) came 1868 via Warzawa to Reval (now Tallinn) where Joseph Kopf founded his workshop which became the leading workshop in Estonia. After his death the firm continued until the nationalization in 1940. The St. Eligius mark was used since 1928 - 1940. Regards Postnikov IP: Logged
agleopar Posts: 850 Registered: Jun 2004	posted 12-01-2009 04:07 PM Welcome Cris, In Postnikov (a new member also) you have found a gold mine of information! Postnikov, It seemed that you were inspired by Cris's spoon? What gave you the clue after 20 years? IP: Logged
Postnikov Posts: 133 Registered: Nov 2009	posted 12-01-2009 04:59 PM Hi - I have not seen a spoon yet! I knew all the JK and IK marks from Joseph Kopf, but did not knew that he changed to the St. Eligius mark in 1928. By chance I get yesterday an old catalogue of Kopf's silver exhibition in the silver chamber of the St.Nikolai Church in Tallinn, (6.10.2004-9.1.2005), where 105 objects of him could be admired - there I found the nearly unknown mark! Regards Postnikov IP: Logged
Mad Collector Posts: 3 Registered: May 2009	posted 12-02-2009 06:29 AM This is amazing news Postnikov, I'm so pleased you've found this mark and not just so I can now put these tongs down, but more so for you on the completion of your 20 year quest. I'm unable to find the pictures of the spoon on my computer, so I will dig it out and take some more. Thanks again for your sharing this info with me. Regards, Chris IP: Logged
Postnikov Posts: 133 Registered: Nov 2009	posted 12-02-2009 08:55 AM Hi - here you have some examples of the typical Russian sugar tongs which influenced the Estonian design/taste of that time. Regards Postnikov IP: Logged

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