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Rogie unregistered |
posted 06-23-2003 10:27 PM
 
O.K., I'm baffled about my knives and forks. They have the marking: AEN 90. The lobster picks are marked: WMF 90 1. Are they German silver or German silver plate? Help please. IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11520 |
posted 06-24-2003 09:11 AM
Try searching the Silverplate Forum for WMF IP: Logged |
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Patrick Vyvyan Posts: 640 |
posted 06-25-2003 12:33 AM
Both are silver plate, as indicated by the 90 mark. However it is perhaps worth mentioning that German silver and German silver mean two different things !!!!! German silver can be silver that comes from Germany. "German silver" can also apply as a generic name to silver plate over a nickel alloy base metal. Many inexperienced dealers, as well as some less so !!!, are ignorant of this contradiction. IP: Logged |
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Anuh Posts: 190 |
posted 07-10-2003 12:12 PM
quote: WMF stands for Württembergische Metallwarenfabrik and is one of the primary makers of silverplate in Germany. They do also make Sterling, btw. The 90 is a silverplate mark. When used together as a phrase "German Silver", it generally refers to an alloy of metals which LOOK like silver but contains no silver. There are many jewelry pieces, primarily those made to reproduce or represent Native American works, that are made of this alloy. It is much harder than silver. When referring to REAL silver made in Germany, I avoid the term German Silver for that reason. ;-D I have a few pieces of WMF flatware, and am familiar with it, but haven't come across any with the AEN mark. I DO have a piece with a mark that looks like a Monopoly locomotive with the 90 mark and have been unable to identify the maker of that! IP: Logged |
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Arg(um)entum Posts: 304 |
posted 07-10-2003 12:54 PM
I don't think that AEN is a mark on a WMF piece, rather I believe it to be a different manufacturer; but despite several querries and attempts I still haven't found out its name and period of activity. Is your 'Monopoly' locomotive accompanied by a capital 'B'? IP: Logged |
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Anuh Posts: 190 |
posted 08-12-2003 08:08 PM
quote: I believe it is, but I have to locate it before I can be sure. For some reason, it has gotten misplaced in my inventory! Do you know the name of the manufacturer? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Arg(um)entum Posts: 304 |
posted 08-12-2003 09:56 PM
I recall reading that Bruckmann used a 'B' and a Locomotive on its silverplated flatware. IP: Logged |
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Anuh Posts: 190 |
posted 08-14-2003 12:26 PM
quote: Thank, "arg". I'll see what I can find on that! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Anuh Posts: 190 |
posted 08-14-2003 12:30 PM
quote: Interesting. I just did a search of Replacements for Bruckmann's patterns. They don't have many pictures, and none of the ones they have is the pattern I have. But two of them had the note "Sterling 90" after them! I normally associate the 90 with German silverplate! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Arg(um)entum Posts: 304 |
posted 08-14-2003 04:10 PM
It does make one wonder! 'matching service' lists 12 patterns under Bruckmann. According to their descriptions: 2 are stainless 1 is 'silverplated' and it does NOT mention '90' (nor '100') 2 are called "sterling" and '925' 3 are "sterling" without other qualifier 3 are "sterling" and "90" 1 lonely one is described as "Sterling, Pointed, Tip800" It is possible that Bruckmann made some lines in Sterling but I doubt that there would have been many. But they sure were a big producer of 800 goods. IP: Logged |
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Anuh Posts: 190 |
posted 10-01-2003 05:58 AM
I finally dug up my "Monopoly locomotive" spoons, and yes, they do have a B in front of them. For now, I'm going to assume Bruckmann. Back to the research... ;-D ------------------ IP: Logged |
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