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Rogie
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iconnumber posted 06-23-2003 10:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
O.K., I'm baffled about my knives and forks. They have the marking: AEN 90.

The lobster picks are marked: WMF 90 1.

Are they German silver or German silver plate?

Help please.
Thanks.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 06-24-2003 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Try searching the Silverplate Forum for WMF

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iconnumber posted 06-25-2003 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Patrick Vyvyan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both are silver plate, as indicated by the 90 mark. However it is perhaps worth mentioning that German silver and German silver mean two different things !!!!!

German silver can be silver that comes from Germany.

"German silver" can also apply as a generic name to silver plate over a nickel alloy base metal.

Many inexperienced dealers, as well as some less so !!!, are ignorant of this contradiction.

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iconnumber posted 07-10-2003 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anuh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Rogie:
O.K.I'm baffled about my knives and forks.They have the marking: AEN 90. The lobster picks are marked: WMF 90 1. Are they German silver or German silver plate ? Help please.
Thanks.

WMF stands for Württembergische Metallwarenfabrik and is one of the primary makers of silverplate in Germany. They do also make Sterling, btw. The 90 is a silverplate mark.

When used together as a phrase "German Silver", it generally refers to an alloy of metals which LOOK like silver but contains no silver. There are many jewelry pieces, primarily those made to reproduce or represent Native American works, that are made of this alloy. It is much harder than silver. When referring to REAL silver made in Germany, I avoid the term German Silver for that reason. ;-D

I have a few pieces of WMF flatware, and am familiar with it, but haven't come across any with the AEN mark. I DO have a piece with a mark that looks like a Monopoly locomotive with the 90 mark and have been unable to identify the maker of that!

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Arg(um)entum

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iconnumber posted 07-10-2003 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Arg(um)entum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think that AEN is a mark on a WMF piece, rather I believe it to be a different manufacturer; but despite several querries and attempts I still haven't found out its name and period of activity.

Is your 'Monopoly' locomotive accompanied by a capital 'B'?

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iconnumber posted 08-12-2003 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anuh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Arg(um)entum:
Is your 'Monopoly' locomotive accompanied by a capital 'B'?

I believe it is, but I have to locate it before I can be sure. For some reason, it has gotten misplaced in my inventory!

Do you know the name of the manufacturer?

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iconnumber posted 08-12-2003 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Arg(um)entum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I recall reading that Bruckmann used a 'B' and a Locomotive on its silverplated flatware.

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Originally posted by Arg(um)entum:
I recall reading that Bruckmann used a 'B' and a Locomotive on its silverplated flatware.

Thank, "arg". I'll see what I can find on that!

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Originally posted by Anuh:
Thank, "arg". I'll see what I can find on that!


Interesting. I just did a search of Replacements for Bruckmann's patterns. They don't have many pictures, and none of the ones they have is the pattern I have. But two of them had the note "Sterling 90" after them! I normally associate the 90 with German silverplate!

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iconnumber posted 08-14-2003 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Arg(um)entum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It does make one wonder! 'matching service' lists 12 patterns under Bruckmann. According to their descriptions:
2 are stainless
1 is 'silverplated' and it does NOT mention '90' (nor '100')
2 are called "sterling" and '925'
3 are "sterling" without other qualifier
3 are "sterling" and "90"
1 lonely one is described as "Sterling, Pointed, Tip800"

It is possible that Bruckmann made some lines in Sterling but I doubt that there would have been many. But they sure were a big producer of 800 goods.

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iconnumber posted 10-01-2003 05:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anuh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I finally dug up my "Monopoly locomotive" spoons, and yes, they do have a B in front of them. For now, I'm going to assume Bruckmann.

Back to the research... ;-D

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