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iconnumber posted 08-29-2003 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I am curious about the makers and the approximate manufacture date of the items pictured below.

I think the cup is French (possibly Puriforcat)as I have seen other Mistletoe pieces made by them.

I have a guess on the bowl, but want to see if anyone comes up with the same answer as it is hard to tell with what remains of the mark.

Many thanks for the help.

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iconnumber posted 08-29-2003 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, the beaker is French. I don't know the maker. I thought Puiforcat marks were either EP (for Emile P.) or JP (for Jean P.), so I'm not sure if this is a Puiforcat piece. The mistletoe design seems to have been popular on continental silver at this time (ca 1900-1910).

The beautiful water lily dish is American and made by the Wm B. Durgin Co. From what I have seen, the mark appears to have been their non-flatware mark. The dish dates to about 1905.

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iconnumber posted 08-30-2003 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Paul!

Thanks for the info. You did confirm my guess on the water lily dish, which is kind of neat.

I don't have any references for French maker's marks, so hope that someone will still be able to come up with something on it.

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iconnumber posted 09-01-2003 06:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello -

The maker of your lovely cup or beaker is the Société Parisienne d'Édition (SPE). Sorry I don't have their dates of operation, but I believe that this is an early 20th Century piece.

The other mark, a head of Minerva facing right in an octagonal shield, indicates .950 silver. This is a French christening cup, traditionally given to a child by the godparents.

In your case, the engraved name indicates the cup belonged to a little girl. Does the mistletoe motif indicate that this was a winter baby? On the other hand, the maker's mark for Puiforcat is an EP in a lozenge, separated by a knife. If the object was designed by Emile Puiforcat's son, Jean, the object might be marked additionally with Jean E. Puiforcat. Jean Puiforcat's Mexican pieces are marked JP, with the initials separated by the Greek letter omega.

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iconnumber posted 09-04-2003 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lisa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thanks so much for the information on my cup!

I just don't have any references other than those for American silver, even though I really like the French rendition of mistletoe in silver.

Many thanks,

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