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pmincey unregistered |
posted 11-20-2004 11:43 PM
 
[01-1934]
I can't seem to find anything like it in in all of my books or on the web. BTW .. according to the seller, there are no other marks on the set except the sterling and the 950. Supposed to be Edwardian? It is in the original box and has Very Little signs of wear, except part of the compacts clasp is broken. I really hope that you don't mind this type of question and .. Thank You Everyone!! Paul IP: Logged |
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Scotia Posts: 125 |
posted 11-22-2004 06:07 AM
Hi, The set looks nice enough, however in the pics, the box looks quite new to me but maybe its just in very good condition. Not much more to say really without better marks. The decoration would suggest late Victorian / Edwardian but there is no way to be certain without marks or without being able to handle it. IP: Logged |
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Patrick Vyvyan Posts: 640 |
posted 11-22-2004 08:12 AM
I have seen similar sets which were Italian, and probably 1950s. However, the combination of the 950 and sterling marks is a peculiarity often seen on Japanese silver. IP: Logged |
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dragonflywink Posts: 993 |
posted 11-22-2004 09:07 AM
Hi Paul, Have very little question that the set is Japanese and probably post WWII. I've seen many pieces, including Zippo lighters, cigarette cases, S&P shakers, etc. with similar engraving and either SILVER 950 or STERLING 950, many in boxes with the Japanese retailer's name, some with American retailer's boxes (stating Japanese origin). My 79 year old Mom remembers lots of these pieces coming back from Japan after the war and well into the 1960s. The set appears to be a compact, lipstick, and perfume bottle along with a powder scoop/perfume ladle(?), I'm not a compact or vanity item collector, but these don't really seem Edwardian in style to me (more 1940s-50s). On the plus side, almost all of these Japanese pieces seem to be of nice quality. Agree with Patrick that there are a lot of pieces (cigarette cases, compacts, pillboxes, etc.) that are of Italian origin with the same type engraving, they are usually marked 800. I own one of the cigarette cases and find the engraving to be a bit finer than on most of the Japanese pieces. Have a nice hand-made 900 silver salad set, similarly engraved, from a maker called Romana, the label (showing Romulus & Remus w/mama wolf) on the original box shows it as being from Orfebreria Romana in Bogota. This set seems more recent, probably from 1970s or later. Italian silversmiths relocated to Colombia? Cheryl IP: Logged |
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Polly Posts: 1970 |
posted 11-22-2004 11:22 AM
Ha! I recognize those pictures. I'm addicted to that website myself. I've found that the descriptions there are often far from accurate--they frequently seem like sheer guesses. Not that the people there are dishonest, they just don't know what they're talking about half the time. (I hope I'm not violating any guidelines here.) But by the same token I've occasionally found great treasures there, such as a delicate little Victorian postal scale made of gilded brass with aesthetic engraving of oak leaves, fans, and swallows. Anyway, did the Edwardians even have lipstick cases? Wasn't lipstick a little risque, something you'd hide rather than show off, until after World War I? Maybe a makeup historian can weigh in. IP: Logged |
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Paul Lemieux Posts: 1792 |
posted 11-22-2004 02:07 PM
I agree with Cheryl. This set is Japanese, and it is not of the Edwardian period. Much more likely to be 50s-60s. This type of silver is/was popular as gift items and tourist items. The silver is mass-produced, and then mostly hand-engraved, but not with virtuoso skill. So it is usually not too costly. Personally I am not a big fan of this type of silver. It seems too bad that the clasp is broken too. IP: Logged |
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pmincey Posts: 3 |
posted 11-26-2004 05:40 PM
Thank You Everyone!! I was sent an email to where this set was actually being sold at and as you might imagine .. I didn't purchase it. My fiance and I DID find something (in the real world) that She Really fell in love with and That will be the subject of my next post Paul IP: Logged |
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