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tmockait

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iconnumber posted 02-05-2006 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmockait     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I got this ladle in Montevideo, where I saw many of similar style. The hallmark is hard to read and even harder to photograph. It is a crudely etched crown topped with a cross that almost looks double-struck. Underneath the crown is what looks like the number "800" for the silver content (?). Another mark (maker?, town?) seems to have been partially struck over the 800.

Any ideas as to where and when this might have been made?

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Tom

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t-man-nc

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iconnumber posted 02-09-2006 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for t-man-nc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pretty Piece, can't see the second picture, but crowns and 800 make me think Germanic is there a moon?

"Smaug"

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tmockait

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iconnumber posted 02-09-2006 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmockait     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Smaug,

Based on the style and the absence of crescent, I don't think it is German. I saw a lot of spoons with similar motifs that appear to come from the region. Also, the crwon looks as though it is scratched into the surface rather than stamped.

I could, however, be wrong. There is a significant German population in Uruguay. Some came to set up the meat processing industry in the later 19th century. Most of the crew of the pocket battleship Graf Spee were disembarked in Montevideo before the captain scuttled the ship in late 1939. Some of the them settled in the city after the war. After the war man former Nazis went to Argentina and probably Uruguay as well. I saw a few pieces of German silver in the shop where I bought this piece.

A larger question for everybody: where can I find good information on S. American marks?

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Tom

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Kayvee

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iconnumber posted 02-09-2006 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kayvee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although the mark looks quite blurry on my monitor, I suggest that the crown with a cross on top is a spurious mark meant to recall the marks on Brazilian silver of the late 18th and early 19th C when Uruguay was still a province of Brazil. This suggestion is in keeping with the colonial design motifs on your ladle and my personal experience in Montevideo in the late 1990s when I saw a large amount of colonial reproduction silver for sale. You might check Tardy to see examples of the Brazilian marks from both Bahía and Río and see whether you think this supposition is plausible. The 800 mark is probably a fineness mark, but as neither Brazil nor Uruguay has a silver standard guarantee, it is anyone’s guess as to fineness.

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