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Polly Posts: 1970 Registered: Nov 2004	posted 04-29-2012 01:33 PM [07-1138] Can anyone help me with this inscription? It's on a pair of unmarked filigree sugar tongs. What language is it in? German? Something Scandinavian? Here are the tongs: Here's the inscription: It's dated 1829--does that sound plausible? IP: Logged
Hose_dk Posts: 400 Registered: May 2008	posted 04-29-2012 02:24 PM I have never seen the acorn at a sugar tong. 1829 is very likely the year. But without hallmarks it is impossible to place in time and place. LK The first letter I know, but now I cannon say what letter it is could be d for date and 5 for the 5th. 5 is easy but next I cannot identify. In Danish it should not be there. German?? Last line is Jan for Januar or Jem - but that makes no sense, or Jim but that makes no sense either Januar German for January in danish it would be Januar. Therefor I am sure that this reflect something of January 5th. And then the first letter most likely d. (but I don't think it is fully correct d) After the 5 - ??? could it refer to line 1 and not line 2??? a slight possibility of Jun which then is short for June in German/danish Juni Regarding shape of the back - I am more to German than Scandinavia. (In combination with acorn). IP: Logged
Polly Posts: 1970 Registered: Nov 2004	posted 04-29-2012 06:06 PM Thank you, Hose. The word you read as "Jan" or "Jun" I read as "Fein" or "Fem," but it makes more sense to see it as a date, so I'm probably wrong. Does anyone else have any thoughts? IP: Logged
agphile Posts: 798 Registered: Apr 2008	posted 04-29-2012 07:20 PM I can't really get any further than Hose. Line 2 looks as if it ought to be a date or something like a 5th anniversary but I can't convert the lettering to a German word or abbreviation I recognise. Wouldn't know about other Nordic languages. Might line 3 be a name, e.g. of the donor, in which case I would go for Jan. I would expect the i to be dotted if it were Fein and anyhow can make even less sense of Fein or Fem if either of those are in fact the correct reading IP: Logged
swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 Registered: May 2003	posted 04-29-2012 07:29 PM I read the last word as "Jan" (January) - what looks like an i is not dotted, so the "ei" is actually an open "a". The character(s) preceding the 5 may be an abbreviation. My wife, who is pretty good at reading old German script from tax lists, wills, etc., gets the sense that this is a wedding inscription, something like joined (= wed) on the 5th of January, with the year (1829) in the other reserve. Just a guess, but I think a pretty good one. IP: Logged
Polly Posts: 1970 Registered: Nov 2004	posted 04-29-2012 08:50 PM Thanks, everyone. IP: Logged
Hose_dk Posts: 400 Registered: May 2008	posted 04-30-2012 12:46 AM The J I am sure of. a is most likely - Jan as a name is very possible. Heirated, verheiratet German (verh - vhei - could that be short for verheirated (never seen that) Gift - danish It is that - why use initials for bride and name for husband? In case name I agree jan is the giver - but not husband. sugar tong - wedding or siminal makes sense. geburtstag Hochzeitstag IP: Logged
Hose_dk Posts: 400 Registered: May 2008	posted 05-23-2012 03:23 PM we love internet sales. Today at an auktion I saw 4 salt cellers. The auktion house assum that they are made by a danish silversmith - they have initials + year 1826. The reason why I refer to this is that they have this achorn. IP: Logged
Polly Posts: 1970 Registered: Nov 2004	posted 05-23-2012 03:51 PM Thank you, Hose. IP: Logged

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