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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 10-23-2012 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is an antique Fiddle Shell pattern egg or salt spoon. I can't figure out where the marks are from. They are "AD", a gate (?), and two other marks--could be a crowned lion, a ship, or ? I bought this in a bag of junky silver plate because the marks intrigued me and I use the spoon for sauces. But I would like to know what the marks means... any thoughts?

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iconnumber posted 10-27-2012 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vathek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
look like English silverplater marks to me.

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iconnumber posted 10-27-2012 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hose_dk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have seen it before, but cannot recall where.

Could be though that I mistake with
T & J Creswick - don't know, not my strong side. smile

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iconnumber posted 10-27-2012 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taloncrest     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would call the "gate" a portcullis. I performed a Google search for portcullis silver mark. The entries for the Scottish town of Arbroath seem particularly interesting. The marks of Andrew Davidson seem to be right, but I can't find a really good picture of the one that resembles yours, and you still can't tell what that double mark is supposed to be.

[This message has been edited by taloncrest (edited 10-27-2012).]

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iconnumber posted 10-27-2012 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agphile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scottish provincial is not my field, but Taloncrest is indeed right. Date would be 1835-1845 and the unclear mark has been described as a crowned head.

[This message has been edited by agphile (edited 10-27-2012).]

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 10-27-2012 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Arbroath mark c. 1835 Arbroath coat of arms Arbroath seal
The burgh of Arbroath probably used a portcullis to symbolize strength and redoubt ability of his citizens.
The silver mark is based on the Arbroath burgh seal.
Arbroath, formerly Aberbrothick, is the anglicized (contracted) form of aber.

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iconnumber posted 10-27-2012 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agphile     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The three marks between AD and the portcullis are of a pot of lillies, also used by Davidson. The crowned head mark on Paul's spoon is different. I don't know whether the differing marks are from earlier and later in his short working life or have some other significance.

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Richard Kurtzman

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iconnumber posted 10-27-2012 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Page 588, Jackson's Silver & Gold Marks:

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