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iconnumber posted 11-12-2007 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scarlett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Hi guys,

I`m a new guy From Latvia smile

What can I say about my silver interest, I found one interesting thing,that I love watch TV programs about any antiques (selling, buying) and I decide collect some silver things. I like to search an internet and try to find hallmarks,which I have on my silver.Good fun! But sometimes It`s very difficult to find that mark, that's why I`m here. I did research about it, and found some information, but not enough to stop.

Here is German 800 silver cigarette case,with mark "Ln", which is Germans hallmark "Laurin" 800 silver.

1934-1938 at that period it was mark of good quality silver,and many different companies had it on their silver. After 1938 in Germany they stopped using hallmark "Ln".

I`m still looking for some information about,company made it. It`s looks like triangle with letter "Z" inside. Or pyramid? Has anyone seen that mark before?

Maybe together with other marks, which can be useful too.

Please, if someone have any information on it, I would be very happy to hear from you.

Thanks everyone!

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iconnumber posted 11-12-2007 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmockait     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Welcome to the forum. I cannot make out the mark in your first picture. Is that the Ln to which you refer? The mark next to the 800 could be an N or a Z. Are you certain this is German? I don't see a crescent moon or crown.

I visited Riga last spring and found a very interesting antique shop where I met the author of a book on Latvian Silver. Check posts under Continental Silver, March 2007 on this forum.


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iconnumber posted 11-12-2007 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scarlett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Tom,

Thanks for answer smile
Yes, It is "Ln" and I've been told that this mark is German silver "Laurin", and many different companies in 1934-38 put that mark on their silver, but other mark together with 800 (probably company mark) I can't identify. It looks like "Z" inside of triangle, but I'm not sure. I'll try tomorrow to check it with special magnifying tool. Maybe I'll be able to see it clear.

Will write something tomorrow.

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iconnumber posted 11-13-2007 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scarlett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The hallmark looks like "Z" with triangle on a top or pyramid.
I hope its help

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iconnumber posted 11-14-2007 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome, Scarlett. I think what Tom is saying is that silver from Germany from this time period should have the German silver markings which are a crescent moon and a crown. Since your case does not have these usual German silver markings it is likely not German. Or if it is German, then it would not likely be silver.


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iconnumber posted 11-16-2007 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scarlett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Here is post from my other discussion on other forum about this cigarette case:

    Hello, yes, that is German. Though I cannot identify the maker (I am not even sure what mark I am seeing here) the other mark is German. The "Ln" in a half circle is the so-called "Laurin" guarantee mark, introduced in Germany in early 1934 and in use for a few years. It was used by a whole bunch of makers and retailers and was meant to guarantee a high standard of design and production of jewellery. On small or large silverware it was rarely used. As it was punched both on silver and gold items, as well as plated items, German jewelers were in heavy opposition to this mark and it's use was abandoned after a few years. So this piece can be dated 1934 to ca. 1938.

I`m confused now frown

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iconnumber posted 11-24-2007 04:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scarlett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found out one bad thing, I will look stupid, but I don't worry about it smile.
Everyone sometimes doesn't know simple things, but maybe they know what you don't know smile

I'm still writing about my cigarette case, and I found out that when I using magnet its stay on it.

Does it mean,that this is not a silver case, but just some kind of metal case,or even worse out time chinies rubbish.

Thanks for help!

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iconnumber posted 11-24-2007 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FWG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, a magnet won't hold to any silver alloy I know of, so that is problematic. There are parts of a case like that that would often be steel: the hinge-pin, the spring in the catch, sometimes the hinge and spring in an internal arm, if there is one (in my experience, Continental ones often just have elastic bands instead of a hinged arm).

But the case itself, from your photos, does look like silver and consistent with the inter-war period in Europe. If you have any local experts you could ask, you might want to try that - inspection in the hand is always better than by photos. In any case, it seems more study is needed.

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iconnumber posted 11-25-2007 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scarlett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Yes its just hinge pin smile

I was at one place here in my town in Latvia, and some experts sad me that silver must have silver mark inside, and because in my case Its only on a clip, and women "expert" sad its not a silver. Not many experts in Latvia,maybe in Riga only.
Can someone please tell me how I can check silver at home?

Thanks everyone for any help!

By the way if someone will be in Latvia,town Liepaja will be glad to meet you,help, and just have a nice conversation after nice Latvian launch.

Regards Aleksandrs

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iconnumber posted 11-25-2007 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dale     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since cigarette cases get bounced around a lot, there are quite a few that were made of steel and given an outer case of thin silver. This is also true of compacts. Yours may have the same composition.

Could you tell us about Latvian silver?

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