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silverhunter Posts: 704 |
posted 02-05-2009 01:24 PM
  
[26-1798] This little spoon with twisted steel is soldered/connected with the little bowl and I've looked(after cleaning) for marks I have found one for sure at the rim of the bowl,stamped at the backside. It's a head, but I've looked in Divis little book and can't find it also at some internet sites no result. Does anybody knows where this spoon can be made and in which period and does anybody recognize the mark with the head? The spoon is 5.2 inch long and will be used for coffee or tea or ice/cream? At the top end of the steel there is another mark? Hardly to recognize or is it possible that with the soldering process is used a tang which printed it's grooves in the silver? It looks like two crosses and inside a little figure? I hope somebody can give any information, greeting silverhunter. The last photo is made from my pc screen perhaps over sized but hopefully is the head to recognize. IP: Logged |
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FredZ Posts: 1070 |
posted 02-05-2009 02:14 PM
My guess would be Turkish. The crescent and star are a clue. Best, IP: Logged |
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dragonflywink Posts: 993 |
posted 02-05-2009 03:27 PM
I agree, most likely Ottoman Empire/Turkish. Can't say that I can see the mark as a head on my monitor - might it be an Ottoman Tughra? ~Cheryl IP: Logged |
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Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 02-05-2009 04:55 PM
Hi Silverhunter. The word we use in English for this kind of delicate metal work made from wires is filigree. I agree that it appears to be a souvenir from a muslim country. Turkey is one possiblity, but so are several others that use this design of a large star in a crescent moon in their national flags and emblems such as Algeria, Tunisia, and Pakistan. I can not see the hallmark in your photos - it is too small and out of focus for me so it does not help. IP: Logged |
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silverhunter Posts: 704 |
posted 02-05-2009 07:14 PM
Thank you all for quick reactions,also for giving the right name "filigree", I think it's started in France? Emaille/enamal etc. I also agree that Turkey is a possibility! I will try to make a better photo tomorrow, because I wasn't satisfied with this oversized monitor reproduction. I make these kind of photos with some lenses, which I hold in front of my camera. A statif should be a better possibility or a more expensive better camera of course. It is such a small mark of 2 mm and you can find these kind of marks mostly at rims of the bowls of little spoons. I think that hall marks from Turkey etc, are not placed into silverbooks for 100%. The little Divis is showing some marks with Arabic letters for indication. I have to check if there are marks including a head sh owned en profile. Turkey also use different alloys of silver. I send a better photo tomorrow. Greetings silverhunter. IP: Logged |
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blakstone Posts: 493 |
posted 02-05-2009 10:29 PM
I believe it's Tunisian. The head, I think, is the small minimum .800 guarantee mark introduced there in 1905. It's hard to be sure from the photo, though. The mark is shown as #825 in Divis. Tardy shows both it and a later 1942 revision of the mark on page 405. This later mark is not in Divis, but it's entirely possible that the 1905 & 1942 marks shown in Tardy are merely different drawings of the same mark. I note also that the Islamic crescent & star is on the Flag of Tunisia. [This message has been edited by blakstone (edited 02-05-2009).] IP: Logged |
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silverhunter Posts: 704 |
posted 02-06-2009 06:11 AM
Blakstone, it's the one! 825 mark in Divis is the head, more clearly than the worse photo's sent from my side. Great to know what the background information is. I doubt if I ever can help you with to give the right name of a mark or background information. The first information from your side was a spoon from Kaliningrad, I don't forget and that information is used by the spoon. Thanks a lot! IP: Logged |
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Kimo Posts: 1627 |
posted 02-06-2009 11:10 AM
I was right when I suggested Tunesia as one of the possibilities! Thanks for the positive identification Blakstone - your eyes are much better than mine in seeing the shape of the hallmark. IP: Logged |
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