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Darveed

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iconnumber posted 02-09-2011 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Darveed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Hello fellow members,

I'm new to this forum, and here is my second attempt at my first post.

I have an 18th century silver piece fashioned out of two Dutch silver coins (ducatons) from the 1760's.

What I wish to know is what would you think it's purpose was. I suspect it was a snuff-box or perhaps a pill-case, but I'm yet to find something similar in order to know more of it's history.




Thanks for looking and hopefully answering my post.
Regards,
David

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silverhunter

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iconnumber posted 02-15-2011 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverhunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice item, I suppose it can be a silver coin storage box.

I wonder if the kind of coin, which is (showed) at the top and down under gave a indication for the sortement coin which good fit and was collected inside. Perhaps you can give the measures of it and also from the inside. It's a possibility when the measure of the original coin is the same size from inside your box. If you look for the item with the search function at this forum, you can find a look like? I've seen also other coin boxes for instance from the 19th century, but this one is a beautiful example (personal opinion)and in a superb condition.

I will look at this side to find out the size of the original coin.

Are there no marks to be find at yours?

Which silver items do you collect? I don't have read your other topics, so I will look for them also. If I've found the measure of the coin I react again and you will be able for to check the idea from this side!

Other values were used and figured at other boxes also with guilders etc.

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silverhunter

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iconnumber posted 02-15-2011 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverhunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The coin is called a "Dukaton" or "silver rider" from the province Gelderland in Holland. Gelderland still is one of the eleven provinces over here, in the period the coin were dated (around 1581-1795) the seven arrows in the hand of the lion, explain the seven provinces we had in that period.

I hope to can find the original size of it.

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Darveed

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iconnumber posted 02-15-2011 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Darveed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by silverhunter:
The coin is called a "Dukaton" or "silver rider" from the province Gelderland in Holland. Gelderland still is one of the eleven provinces over here, in the period the coin were dated (around 1581-1795) the seven arrows in the hand of the lion, explain the seven provinces we had in that period.

I hope to can find the original size of it.


Hello Siverhunter,

The coin (ducaton) is approximately 43mm in diameter.

I can see a small mark that is very hard to decipher as it's only 2mm wide, but I'll find a good magnifying glass to better describe it.

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Darveed

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iconnumber posted 02-15-2011 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Darveed     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here are some pics of the silver marks - they are so tiny that it was hard to zoom in without losing definition - but perhaps someone can recognize them.




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silverhunter

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iconnumber posted 02-15-2011 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverhunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Typical Dutch sword stemp, early one's used from 1814-1905.Later one's are used with 835 or 925 silver indication figures stamped into the sword.

Not clearly to see, I also struggle with making good photo's of these mm stamps.

But good try.

I believe it is common that at little pieces mostly no silversmith stamps stand.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Paul Lemieux

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iconnumber posted 02-15-2011 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Paul Lemieux     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Neat piece. I always like pieces fashioned from old coins. My first guess is a snuff box.

silverhunter is right about the marks and that pieces sometimes escaped being marked by the maker (many dutch marks are difficult to locate because of placement in inconspicuous areas, but I am sure you scrutinized the box well).

Hard to date beyond what the sword mark indicates, as the use of coins was popular throughout the 19th century. I might guess 2nd quarter 19C.

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jersey

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iconnumber posted 11-20-2011 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello all!

Saw something interesting last night re coins that have been split in half. As opposed to a snuff box they could be used to hide microfilm & the like during the war.

Jersey

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