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Elisabeth7291

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iconnumber posted 06-15-2009 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elisabeth7291     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[26-1860]

Sharing another piece from the family collection we just received.

Another fish server (or I've recently seen it called pastry server - is there a difference?)

Close up of the handle:

The blade:

The markings read "S830J.Tostrup.1911." The only thing I know about this maker is that he's from Oslo, which is also where my husband's grandfather lived at the time.

Thanks for letting me share; there is more to come!

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Hose_dk

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iconnumber posted 06-15-2009 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hose_dk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This one is easy - Tolstrup was established 1832 and is still active.

And it is for pastry - fish server have holes.

Without the holes the water from the fish cannot fload (well that was a lot of water but I am sure you get the point).

That is the main difference in the two. Shape of the piece is another - the shape would be different and in this period i would have a edge so that the fish would stop from falling - and now I am entering explanation that exceeds my language skills.

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doc

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iconnumber posted 06-15-2009 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, not all fish servers have holes. The general difference is that fish servers usually have longer blades and the blades have a flat surface (although some are designed to serve fish from the side, so have one side that is a raised edge).

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silverhunter

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iconnumber posted 06-15-2009 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverhunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Elisabeth,

Thank you for showing this also wonderful tart ? server, here in Holland I use a tart server made by M.Olsen. One thing is for sure, the taste had to be the same like the server is made. Beautiful steel and ornamental decoration and engraving. I like this pattern but I don't know the name of this one.

The person Tostrup was a very important silver/gold(?)smith and delivered a lot of silver work at the Norwegian Royal House.

I think your grandfather has visited the big warehouse in Oslo were the family Tostrup worked. You can find a lot of information about Tostrup.
I don't know if there also is a fishe/s engraved at other pieces like some countries do also at flatware.

I ever saw an article about Marius Hammer were silver master pieces were showed.
Tostrup also made important museum (?) pieces. Tomorrow I will look for more information about Tostrup. I have only one salad server made by Tostrup in 1913 and with a Rose pattern decoration. So the firm was very prolific and made a lot of different patterns those days. I think in musea in Norway (or perhaps in other countries)there will be seen a lot of silver made by him.

I was good to see this one,thanks a lot for showing perhaps you can inform what you already know about Tostrup?

It's become late at this side and the family close down (bed time)perhaps I dream about all that silver!

Greetings from this side,
Silverhunter (Andre).

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silverhunter

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iconnumber posted 06-16-2009 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverhunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've found a list with dated information about a couple of Norwegian Silver/Goldsmiths around the late 19th and early 20th century. Here it is:

Berg, Andreas Mathias (1867 - 1947)
Berg, Clemet (1852 - 1941)
Brinck, Fredrik Julius (1808 - 1857)
Bryde, Harald William (1858 - 1925)
Bryns Patentkontor (1877 - 1977)
Bye, Anton (1832 - 1918)
Børs, Thorbjørn Ludvig (1819 - 1888)

Carlsen, Albert Marinius (1885 - 1964)
Christiansen-Berger, K. (1880 - 1948)

David-Andersen (1876 - )

Ekvoll, Johan Andersen (1871 - 1955)
Elvik, Nils Martin (1887 - 1948)

Felumb, Ludvig Theodor (1814 - 1894)
Fjeld, Gunnar (1906 - 1972)
Frisch, Anthonius (1826 - 1916)
Frisenberg, Julius M. (1844 - 1900)
Førlie, Olaus (1839 - 1900)

Granrud, Peder M. (1874 - 1949)

Hagen, Kristian Bernhard (1861 - 1941)
Hagness, Finn (1912 - 1952)
Hammer, Marius L. (1847 - 1927)
Hansen, Nils (1897 - 1946)
Hjortdahl, Olav Fridtjof (1887 - 1954)
Hoff, Christen (1787 - 1860) *
Hohle, Hans (1864 - )
Holmsen, Aksel (1873 - 1962)
Holth, Ivar T. (1908 - 1977)
Hovie, Christian G. (1830 - ) (ny)
Hovland, Gullsmedene
Hæhre, Ole Gulsen (1838 - 1898)

Jacobsen, Olaus August (1853 - 1920)
Jacobsen, Ulrik Christian (1886 - 1957) *
Jonsen, Peter (1787 - )
Juvelerer Tostrup (1832 - 1984)
Jørgensen, Johan (1837 - 1901)
Jørgensen, N. A. (1869 - 1941)
Jørgensen, Oluf C. (1830 - 1901)
Jørgensen, Thorvald (1870 - 1946)

Karat, as (1919 - )

Larssen, Oscar Fredrik (1874 - )
Liberg, Karenus O. (1875 - 1956) *
Lie, Peder Arnesen (1823 - 1868) *
Lohne, Alf og Johan (1921-)

Marthinsen, Thorvald (1855 - 1933)
Middelthon, Johan S. (1826 - 1890)
Morken, Fridtjof (1884 - 1961)
Møller, Henrik Bertram (1858 - 1937)

Nilssen, Magnus (1871 - 1947)
Nordby, Harald (1875 - 1950) *

Odde, Johannes (1870 - 1939)
Olsen, Theodor (1837 - 1890)
Oslo Sølvvareverksted (1926 - 1990) *

Pettersen, Julius (1859 - 1930)

Rasmussen, Knut A. (1837 - 1918)
Rasmussen, Olaf Henrik (1875 - 1970)
Rokseth, Karl Johan (1883 - 1973)
Rødseth, Christian F. (1840 - 1932)

Sandsberg, Andreas (1793 - 1859)
Schøien, Andreas Larsen (1817 - 1912)
Schøien, Brødrene (1885 - 1928)
Staudenmann, Karl R. (1874 - 1939) *
Steenberg, Johan Fredrik (1828 - 1894)
Sunde, Martin Ingebrigt (1876 - 1962)
Svebak, Hans (1866 - 1935)
Sylvsmidja Sylvvare (1940 - )
Sæby, Andreas
Sæther, John Ludvig (1893 - 1954)

Thune, Nillius Marthinius (1831 - 1890)
Tostrup, Jacob Ulrich H. (1806 - 1890)
Tostrup, Oluf (1842 - 1882)

Wessmann, Otto Wilhelm (1873 - 1959)
Wisting, Hans Peter (1772 - 1826)
Waale, E.S. *

Ødegaard, Peter A. (1868 - 1933)
Østby, Martin (1875 - 1938)

Aas, Ole Olsen (1846 - 1932)
Aase, Magnus (1876 - 1953)
Aasen, Johan Anton (1848 - )

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silverhunter

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iconnumber posted 06-16-2009 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverhunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Elisabeth,(and other members).

If you type the words Jacob Tostrup as search function and you look for the last article at page 2, you also can see the craftsmanship of Jacob Tostrup, really wonderful silver ware and with a lot of information. I think you like it also.

There is a lot of filigran jewelry too and silver/enamel combinations.
Some photo's of Tostrup's craftsmanship as a silver/goldsmith.



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Elisabeth7291

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iconnumber posted 06-16-2009 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elisabeth7291     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, all, for the education on fish servers vs. pastry servers and Silverhunter on the information about Tostrup. I didn't know anything about him except that he worked in Christiania / Oslo. But, this is exactly the type of research I had hoped to find.

One day my husband & I plan to visit Norway - there are still relatives there - and so you all are helping me create my "things to do while in Norway" list!

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