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iconnumber posted 02-16-2018 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Above is a beaker from Sweden with what I think are date marks (the number 3 and the letter Q) for 1822. The initials for the maker are MK and the other mark I think is the town mark.

As you can see in the picture the beaker has a lid with the marks below.

The same marks from a different angle:

Here the date mark of K3 is for 1816 and the maker’s initials are AZ.

I brought the beaker because of the barrel design. I thought it was odd that it would have a lid as I don’t ever remember seeing a beaker with a lid. Even thought the lid fits perfectly I do believe given the different dates that the lid originally went with something else.

The lid does have a very nice crest with snakes, a sun like face and a crown.

Any ideas as about this beaker and lid or the inscriptions would be appreciated.

I usually think that beakers with a barrel design were used for whiskey of some type that was barrel aged and that the Swedish usually drank vodka that was not aged in barrels. Maybe they also made barrel aged drinks.

Right now I can say that the beaker works perfectly with some of my last portions of 18 year old Laphroaig.

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iconnumber posted 02-17-2018 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Above is the rest of the inscription on the beaker. Bolag means company in Swedish so this may have been a presentation from some company to Gustaf Mannerheim.

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iconnumber posted 02-18-2018 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vathek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are the dimensions?

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iconnumber posted 02-18-2018 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The Swedish beaker is on the left and an American Coin cup by John Chandler Moore is on the right. They are both about 3 ¼” high. The Swedish beaker is 2 ½” across the top and has a gold wash on the inside. The Moore cup is 2 5/8” across the top. The Swedish beaker weights 90 grams while the Moore cup is 141 grams.

I think cups, beakers and goblets seem more likely to have a gold wash on the inside if made in Europe.

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iconnumber posted 03-19-2018 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A friend of mine is from Sweden and said that all of the political subdivisions of Sweden had their own coat of arms. He thinks that arms shown on the lid above were probably from the county or parish that the city of Ekby was in.
Also that Carl Gustaf Mannerheim might be a descendant of the Gustaf Mannerheim engraved this cup. Carl Gustaf Mannerheim was a noted Finish military lead of the 1900s.
My friend also thought that this barrel may not represent a Whisky barrel, but instead a barrel to store Saltpeter.

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