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iconnumber posted 01-14-2008 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for suomoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Could anyone tell me how old my silver salts are?

I have enclosed a picture of the hallmarks. ( 13 , N and a cross)

I'm looking forward to any response.

Thank you.

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iconnumber posted 01-15-2008 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverhunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To see only the marks it is very difficult at this side to find out.

Can you tell me which country these one is made?
Can you post a total photo of the object?

Ehen the figure 13 explains the lot, I suppose the object was made around 1880.

I follow the topic to learn from your silver quest.

Groeten Silverhunter.

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iconnumber posted 01-17-2008 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverhunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is some more information. Last week my computer crashed so I have to restore all information I had.

The figure 13 is a figure that stands for the silver percentage of 812/1000.

I don't know exactly the whole range of the Lot indication but

  • the figure 12 stands for 750/1000
  • 14 stands for 875/1000
  • the figure 15 stands for 937/1000
  • the figure 16 stands for pure silver

The letter N stands for the city of Nuremberg (Nurnberg) and the letter X can be the date letter? I hope somebody can provide more detail on this to you.

From 1760 Nurnberg used the letter N so it's only a matter for get more information.

But please send a photo of the total subject it will give also a indication of the period it is made.
From the 18th century the figures of the lot indication is use in Poland and Germany.

The ornaments looks old and perhaps it is early 19th or 18th century who knows?

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iconnumber posted 01-19-2008 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmockait     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

The shape of the letter "N" for Nurmburg changed over time. According to the boo by Tardy (which is by no means the final authority), yours looks closest to the one for the late 18th century.

I suspect what looks like an "x" may be a maker's mark not a date letter. It would be helpful if you could post an enlarged picture of the marks and rotate it 90 degrees right so we are looking at them as they were meant to be read.

A picture of the salts would also help in identifying them. Besides, every one enjoys seeing the item.

Blackstone seems the member most likely to give you a more definitive answer, so I hope he will reply to your post.

Good luck.


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iconnumber posted 01-19-2008 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blakstone     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I, too, would like to see a photo of the salts.

The marks look to be Hanau pseudomarks.

The N" does not look like Nuremburg to me, and that distinctive "13" (with the lower half of the "3" dropping down and curving up to almost touch the "1") is found frequently with Hanau false marks.

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iconnumber posted 01-20-2008 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vathek     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also from the pics I'm wondering if that is an X or a pair of crossed hammers.

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iconnumber posted 01-29-2008 05:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverhunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's nice when people react!

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