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cbc58

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iconnumber posted 12-11-2018 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cbc58     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Came across this spoon and trying to figure out what country it was made in and how old it might be. Admittedly the pictures are not the best. The shell (crown?) almost looks like it was cast and applied. The mark on the left looks somewhat like a shield and the letters are EC. It does not have any other marks other than those shown in the pic. It feels and looks like 800 silver (or pewter) but perhaps it's something else. Possibly a reproduction but perhaps not. Any info is appreciated. Tks

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silberpunze

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iconnumber posted 01-10-2019 06:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for silberpunze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an answer for:

Topic: Ratail / Trefid Spoon with shell - marked EC

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cbc58

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iconnumber posted 01-10-2019 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cbc58     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for taking the time to research this spoon. Looking forward to learning more about it.

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silberpunze

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iconnumber posted 01-10-2019 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silberpunze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is Durlach.
Now Durlach is a part of city Karlsruhe in Baden (Baden-Württemberg), but about the time, the spoon was maked, Karlsruhe was foundet.
I have looked in the church books and find two makers in Durlach: Ernst Croll (sen.) and Ernst Croll (jun.).
The spoon is from first quater of 18th century.

Have You better images of the marks?

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cbc58

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iconnumber posted 01-10-2019 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cbc58     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much. I will try and get some better pics.

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cbc58

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iconnumber posted 01-10-2019 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cbc58     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Close up pic of mark. The thing in the shield almost looks like a branch..

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silberpunze

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iconnumber posted 01-10-2019 05:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silberpunze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find out, the son Johann Ernst Croll (jun), died 07/14/1755, +07/16/1755, 71 Years 4 Month old -> born ca. 1684.

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asheland

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silberpunze, excellent research!

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silberpunze

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iconnumber posted 01-11-2019 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silberpunze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

One has to do it. If there are again interesting hallmarks from Germany, let me know ;-)


About the age of the spoon,
I think it is about from 1725-1750.

This mark is on a chalice with engraving from 1713.

You can see an other variation of hallmark.
The makersmark is equal but earlier.

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