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Paul Lemieux Posts: 1800 |
posted 12-19-2001 03:24 PM
  
These 4 spoons came in an English box (the box is not original, although the spoons fit fairly well and have been in it for some time). They measure 4-1/2" long and are marked as shown with: "W.S" stamped, sometimes very heavily, at the top of the reverse; a lion passant in a rectangle; and a mark I have been unable to decipher. Unfortunately, that mark is rather rubbed on some of the spoons. Attached are several pictures of the spoons & marks. Can any body help identify the maker/date of these spoons? IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4132 |
posted 12-19-2001 05:40 PM
I do not know what to make of the W.S (apprentice's mark? Owner's?), but the lower mark is the first used (c 1770-1776) by John Eustace of Exeter, whose career spanned c 1770-1825. A lovely and desirable set of spoons. IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11573 |
posted 12-19-2001 05:52 PM
WEV I believe you know something about typography ... IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4132 |
posted 12-19-2001 09:21 PM
It's a curious thing really; the WS is actually closer in typographic date to the spoon's estimate than the maker's mark itself. Allowing for some distortion in the punching, the W.S looks like the later types of Baskerville, especially the Great Primer Roman of 1762. The JE of Eustace, on the other hand, seems to be based on 17th century English cursive blackletter with a touch of French Lettre Bastarde added in for spice. Interestingly, the next mark he used (c 1785-1803 ) was a plain roman JE, much closer to the form of the W.S, but then he reverted to a new (albeit restrained) version of the earlier form. [This message has been edited by wev (edited 12-19-2001).] IP: Logged |
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Does the WS type face indicate that the WS was struck many years after the estimated date of manufacture. Yes? No? Maybe? 