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Hoover

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iconnumber posted 02-06-2003 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hoover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have really enjoyed this forum and love the information -- so here goes another stumper. Any one know what these tongs might be used for? I have heard asparagus, or a cigar holder, but the circumference of the tongs seems to small for either. Perhaps tiny pickles? Anyways, I have it dated as Sheffield Sterling, 1893, but I forget the maker.

Albright perhaps.

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wev
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iconnumber posted 02-06-2003 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Serving asparagus.

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ozfred

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iconnumber posted 02-06-2003 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ozfred     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sardines might be considered.

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wev
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iconnumber posted 02-06-2003 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At your table, perhaps, but not mine. Yuk.

Sardines are usually served with a two pronged, long tined fork if oil cured, a slotted spoon if creamed, at least among my Dansk relatives.

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Brent

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iconnumber posted 02-06-2003 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
These are individual asparagus tongs for eating, not serving, asparagus. Asparagus serving tongs are very large. Your individual tongs are designed to pick up each spear individually, for dainty nibbling.

Sardine tongs do exist but they generally have broad fork-like grips with five or more tines on each side. More common are sardine forks, which vary widely in shape but in general are quite broad with four to seven short broad tines. Sardine forks are rather small, and might be considered a place piece by the uninitiated, but they were indeed used for serving. Since this differs from WEV description, perhaps the Scandinavians use a different style of sardine fork. They certainly eat more than most of the rest of the world!

Brent

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Bob and Carol Carnighan

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iconnumber posted 02-06-2003 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob and Carol Carnighan     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We asked in this forum in July, 1999 exactly how individual asparagus tongs were used. We thought that multiple spears were transfered to the plate with an asparagus fork and the individual spears were grasped with the tongs and eaten in multiple bites. We would love to use our tongs at a formal dinner. Any ideas?

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wev
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iconnumber posted 02-06-2003 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wev     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Usage probably had more to do with the paucity of silver than any ethnic character.

In all seriousness, these individual grips (and I did not note the closed end, servers having both ends open) can only be considered another in the long line of 'invented' utensils produced by the leading silver houses. There are only two proper ways to eat asparagus (acording to every cookery and etiquette book I have come across): by finger or cut and forked as any other vegetable. If by fingers, the entire piece is eaten at once, not returned in parto to the plate. And once cut, it can not be then finger fed. High English and French services had, at one time, a long narrow sort of individual gravy boat for dipping the spears into sauces when hand handling. When knapped on the plate, they were eaten with knife and fork. The late Victorian makers, working no doubt in conjunction with the lace glove makers, invented these useless devices for ladies and gent who insisted, for some perverse reason, on eating with their hands clad.

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doobees

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iconnumber posted 02-07-2003 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doobees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The HA may be "Atkin Brothers." That's my guess from the list of Sheffield maker's marks in my Jackson's refernce book .

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T-Bird-Art

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iconnumber posted 03-20-2003 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T-Bird-Art     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is a large Asparagus server

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T-Bird-Art

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iconnumber posted 03-29-2003 05:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T-Bird-Art     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here are more Asparagus items:

Silver Asparagus Server
For serving asparagus spears with a removable rack and sauce boat.
10" x 17" Weight 60 oz

Individual Asparagus Tongs
Found in:
Old Colonial (shown)
Francis I
Love Disarmed
Georgian


Edwardian Asparagus Server Set
made in ca 1900.
Length 27 cms.

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Stephen

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iconnumber posted 03-29-2003 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Eaton tongs shown above could be meat tongs. Helliwell's "Small Silver Tableware" has this to say --
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Large serving tongs were first made toward the end of the 1700s. For many years they were all known as asparagus tongs, but it is now thought that the narrow-bladed examples were used to serve meat, since asparagus stalks would break when lifted unless the blades were broader.


... and somehow I just can't envision English asparagus al denté.

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Stephen

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iconnumber posted 04-25-2003 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stephen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was at the library the other day and saw a boxed set of individual asparagus tongs in an 1898 English catalog.

They were labeled "Asparagus Eaters".

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