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useverlasting unregistered	posted 02-02-2000 04:18 PM looking to get info on a Chester eng. mark ca. 1890 G mark unable to locate silversmiths name from period that mark being first a B and I J with lion ankor and last the G ......your help will be greatly appreciated IP: Logged
Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 Registered: May 99	posted 02-02-2000 04:31 PM Most of my silver books are fairly old, and I have found that 19th century silversmiths are far less well documented, especially in provincial centers, than earlier ones. There were apparently some rules about publishing the maker's marks of "modern" silversmiths at one point, when the first of the great books on English marks were produced. I have had a hard time tracking down 1880s and 90s silver makers. Does anyone know of a more current book with names? IP: Logged
Richard Kurtzman unregistered	posted 02-03-2000 12:03 AM To useverlasting, your description is somewhat vague, but if there is an anchor present this is definitely not from Chester. Without knowing more, I would say it is either Birmingham England or possibly Gorham (lion, anchor, G). Is the word sterling marked anywhere? Please be more precise. IP: Logged
Ulysses Dietz Moderator Posts: 1265 Registered: May 99	posted 02-03-2000 09:04 AM Gorham flickered through my mind, too; but the present of a maker's mark in addition to the touches does suggest English origin--and I'd not picked up on the Birmingham mark, about which you're quite right. The question remains--where is there a book that lists late Victorian and 20th century maker's marks? IP: Logged
Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11573 Registered: Apr 93	posted 02-03-2000 01:38 PM I took a quick look in our library and found a few references: Marks of London Goldsmiths and Silversmiths 1837-1914 by John P. Fallon The Silversmiths of Birmingham and their Marks: 1750-1980 by Judith Banister, Michael Berry, Clive R Gilbert, David Kynaston Other books that are often very helpful: London Goldsmiths 1697-1837. Their Marks & Lives by Arthur G. Grimwade Chester Silver 1727-1837 by Maurice H. Ridgway Old English Plate by Wilfred Joseph Cripps Old London Silver; Its History, Its Makers, Its Marks by Montague Howard And lastly don't forget Jackson's and Wyler's books. IP: Logged
Bob Schulhof Posts: 194 Registered: Apr 99	posted 02-03-2000 08:17 PM It could not be from Chester. If there is a Lion an Anchor & a G that would be Birmingham either 1831 (gothic G) 1855-6 (capital G) 1881-2 lower case g, 1906-07 lower case g facing right. Prior to 1900 it would also have a Kings head (1831) or Queens Head. Wyler does not show a BIJ as a maker. Do you have a Queen's head? IP: Logged

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