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Brent Posts: 1507 |
posted 08-06-2004 12:43 PM
  
 Here is a nice little English sauce ladle. It has a beaded edge, and an unusual crest of a giant holding a flower. (It seems to me that I have seen it before, but can't place it.) At any rate, I am having trouble placing the marks. It is bottom-marked (down near the bowl), and the marks consist of a maker's mark TE in script, a lion passant, a castle, and what appears to be half of a date letter K in a shield. My best guess is that this is an Exeter mark, possibly for 1783, but I can't find the maker anywhere. I would be interested in hearing other opinions about these marks, and the crest, too. Brent IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4132 |
posted 08-06-2004 01:03 PM
Great crest -- looks like me working in the hort department. Thomas Eustace, Exeter 1775 on. IP: Logged |
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t-man-nc Posts: 327 |
posted 08-06-2004 05:17 PM
The Fellow on your spoon is very well known in early coins from the German States as the "Wildman". I have several Talers that depict variations of the theme. Great Find!
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wev Moderator Posts: 4132 |
posted 08-06-2004 05:58 PM
Here's an example IP: Logged |
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clive.e.taylor unregistered |
posted 08-07-2004 12:17 PM
I agree this is certainly Thomas Eustaces mark, although as he is mentioned in the Freemans list for 1773 I would put his first pieces a lttle earlier than 1775. He also made tongs and buckles as well as flatware.His work is of consistantly good quality and weight, unlike many West Country smiths who had to deal with less affuent customers. He eventually went bankrupt, according to one authority ,due to his quality being too high for his market As far as I have seen he actually made much of his output, not buying it directly from London and merely marking and assaying locally, as did so many other Exeter "makers" IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4132 |
posted 08-07-2004 01:10 PM
Clive -- Was John Eustace, working in Exeter c 1825, his son or some other relation? IP: Logged |
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Brent Posts: 1507 |
posted 08-08-2004 10:22 AM
Thank you all! I did notice the resemblance to the published mark for Thomas Eustace, but did not find one with the exact same shape. This piece is part of any interesting collection, many seemingly selected for the marks, which are out of the ordinary. This piece does bear out the idea that Eustace's work was of supeior quality. It has very good weight and balance, while at the same time being a little "odd". The shank is very square in profile, whereas most of the contemporary London flatware I have seen has been much more rounded. Thanks again! Watch this space for a few more unusual bits of English silver. Brent IP: Logged |
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swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 |
posted 08-08-2004 01:27 PM
I believe you will find that stems of spoons with decorated edges - especially those with beading, such as this one - will be flatter than those without, regardless of their place of origin. What is odd, though, is the "crest," which does not appear in Fairbairn's Crests (at least I didn't find it). Also, the interesting figure is not standing on a typical torse, which would siginify an English crest, and so msy be only decorative, or not of English origin. IP: Logged |
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clve.e.taylor unregistered |
posted 08-08-2004 02:54 PM
Regret I do not know any relationship between the two Eustaces, but strongly suspect you are right. The unfortunate fact on Exeter silver is that the man who researched a great deal of the 18th century silversmiths, Mike Reinhold, died a couple of years ago and I do not know what became of his notes. He was a great help to everyone in the silver field and unlike so many ,always keen to share his knowledge. I greatly treasure one particular reply to my query on Joseph Collier . "He was Steward of Plymouth, in charge of the corporation's buildings and waterworks...was a Quaker and had 15 children". Also a silversmith and presumeably died of sheer overwork and exhaustion ! IP: Logged |
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