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salmoned Posts: 336 Registered: Jan 2005	posted 03-07-2006 02:56 PM I recently purchased a plain fiddle pattern sugar tongs marked in London, 1877, with the maker "CB" in in a bifid frame (conjoined circles outline). Can anyone identify this maker? Thank you. Also, I have a tongs marked in Sheffield, 1954, with a "RD No 857638" (the D and o are small and underlined). I assume this indicates a registered pattern. Is there a web source for identifying this pattern? [This message has been edited by salmoned (edited 03-07-2006).] IP: Logged
tmockait Posts: 963 Registered: Jul 2004	posted 03-07-2006 04:17 PM I believe that "Rd no." is the British equivalent of the US "patent no.". IP: Logged
swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 Registered: May 2003	posted 03-07-2006 07:53 PM Probably Charles Boyton - Culme has many marks for this man and his firm(s) of manufacturing silversmiths. How about a photograph? IP: Logged
salmoned Posts: 336 Registered: Jan 2005	posted 03-07-2006 09:36 PM Will do, but I need to borrow my friend's camera again - my collection of 25 British sterling sugar tongs (1797 to 1954) cost little more than a moderately priced digital camera. As to the "Rd No" - further investigation indicates it refers to a Registered Design under the "Registered Design Act of 1949" and provides 25 year protection (can be extended). Currently available records (on the web) start with 1997. [This message has been edited by salmoned (edited 03-07-2006).] IP: Logged
PhilO Posts: 166 Registered: Jul 2004	posted 03-08-2006 03:34 AM CB is definitely Charles Boyton, in this case the second of that name. There were 3 Charles Boytons (father, son, grandson) working from 1825 to 1904, when the company became Charles Boyton & Sons. The mark you describe was first registered in 1872 and used through until 1900 when Charles Boyton 2 died. A fourth Charles Boyton (great grandson of the original one) ran Boyton & Sons until it collapsed in 1933, when he set up on his own with his own "CB" mark. The registration number 857638 was issued in 1949. I have found the following site very useful for dating registration numbers. In addition it also explains the diamond-shaped registration marks used from 1842 to 1883. Dating English Registry Marks Phil IP: Logged
salmoned Posts: 336 Registered: Jan 2005	posted 03-08-2006 03:26 PM Thanks, PhilO, that site may prove useful to many. It does seem to make an error when suggesting a design may have been used on an object BEFORE being registered - the 'rules' for registration apparently forbid it. BTW, I also enjoyed the Charles Boyton thumbnail history. [This message has been edited by salmoned (edited 03-08-2006).] IP: Logged

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