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evangelinestime Posts: 18 Registered: Mar 2005	posted 04-09-2005 05:36 PM I have just purchased some silver vanity items- The marks are J & C and a cross, a lion and an X. However the marks on the nail files that do fit into the case are different. I cannot read them. Yet it all matches. any information is appreciated very much. Lynda IP: Logged
TBC Posts: 134 Registered: Jan 2005	posted 04-10-2005 07:23 AM You will really need a photograph. However, (and I could be totally wrong) I suspect your cross is an anchor and that your item was made in Birmingham, England. As to the X this is a date letter and could be for any number of years - send photo and we can help more. The J & c is the maker and could be Lea & Clarke - however, a photo is required as there are several makers with the J & C mark. Regards, TBC IP: Logged
evangelinestime Posts: 18 Registered: Mar 2005	posted 04-10-2005 08:20 AM Thank you tbc I am recharging the batteries in my camera I will get photo up soon if I can get a good close up. And you are correct it IS a anchor (very hard to see it) IP: Logged
swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 Registered: May 2003	posted 04-10-2005 12:39 PM These are marks on the files in the manicure set I bought and the marks are different from the ones on the caps of the little rouge pots (?)(same set) which I have already listed..these marks came out very clear but I am wondering why there are different marks within the same set and it all does match... thanks again Lynda IP: Logged
evangelinestime Posts: 18 Registered: Mar 2005	posted 04-10-2005 02:51 PM Thank you WEV IP: Logged
tmockait Posts: 963 Registered: Jul 2004	posted 04-10-2005 04:34 PM Judging by the shape of the crest and the style of the letter "X", I would say the case date could be 1922 or 1946-47, depending on whether the x is small or capital. The rouge pots may not be part of the same set as the different marks suggest, even though they "fit" together. The marks on the pots appear to be those for Chester, either 1922-23, or 1947-48. Given that the dates of both items match, perhaps the buyer bought the pieces separately and used them together. Good luck, Tom IP: Logged
swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 Registered: May 2003	posted 04-10-2005 04:56 PM The Chester mark is 1922, as it is in script which was used in that date cycle. The following cycle used a more archaeic typeface. The Birmingham mark is very small and difficult to make out, but one might infer from the presence of the Chester piece that it should be 1922 as well, and not from the following cycle. IP: Logged
evangelinestime Posts: 18 Registered: Mar 2005	posted 04-10-2005 06:21 PM Thank you very much for the reply's. In a few minutes I will add on a picture of the whole set in the little covered box in came in...I feel just from the box and the clasp, it would be maybe the 20's. Maybe this will help. ALSO Is the "Chester" mark the name of the company? or is Chester one of those little marks. as I said in the other question I am a beginner...maybe you can all just sigh and look upon me as a challenge... [gone from the internet - geocities.com/flyingswedes/set.JPG] IP: Logged
swarter Moderator Posts: 2920 Registered: May 2003	posted 04-10-2005 06:46 PM Birmingham and Chester are cities in England. Your silver pieces were marked in their assay offices. See our hallmark faq for more information. [This message has been edited by swarter (edited 04-10-2005).] IP: Logged
tmockait Posts: 963 Registered: Jul 2004	posted 04-10-2005 11:14 PM Evangelinestime, Nothing to sigh about. Everyone starts some place. I had fun looking up the marks and enjoyed looking at the photos! Thanks, Tom IP: Logged
PhilO Posts: 166 Registered: Jul 2004	posted 04-11-2005 02:36 AM J&C are Jones and Crompton (Edward Samuel Jones & Hubert Crompton). The reason that some of your pieces are hallmarked in Chester and some in Birmingham is that many Birmingham manufacturers sent silver to Chester for assay and marking as the Chester office was less busy than Birmingham and silver could be processed more quickly than if it was sent to the local Birmingham office. It was probably the Birmingham business which kept the Chester assay office going for so long through the 20th century - it finally closed in 1962. The separate items in the set would not necessarily have all been manufactured at the same time, and it is often the case that items from the same set even have different date letters. Phil IP: Logged
evangelinestime Posts: 18 Registered: Mar 2005	posted 04-11-2005 08:36 AM Thanks very much ! I was hoping this was an "original" set since it all sort of looked like it matched and fit in the box well... I am going to copy your info and keep it with the set.. Thanks Lynda IP: Logged

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