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bleggett

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iconnumber posted 08-19-2005 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bleggett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone ID the above manufacturers marks. The piece is hallmarked as .925, Birmingham, 1910 and then H C D.

It is a small glass pot with a silver rim and looks as if it could have had a roller in it. If there was water in the bottom it could have been a stamp "licker".

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TBC

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iconnumber posted 08-26-2005 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TBC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi blegget,

Although I cannot assist, I would like to explain to you why people have not responded.

Hallmarks post 1900 are very difficult to identify because Jackson, one of the main works, does not address newer marks to any degree; accordingly, very, very few people will have the wherewithal to assist anyone.

Kind rgds, and sorry not to be able to help you (yet - I hope someday to come across a book on newer marks!)

Tom

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bleggett

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iconnumber posted 08-26-2005 01:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bleggett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many thanks for that. I was wondering why every one was ignoring me!

Brian

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TBC

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iconnumber posted 08-26-2005 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TBC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brian,

You are very welcome. We have some very knowledgeable people here, but many are, sadly, lacking in the social graces.

Sorry I could not help you. Maybe someone will.

Best wishes to you generally and in your quest to learn about silver.

Rgds,

Tom

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Richard Kurtzman
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iconnumber posted 08-26-2005 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Kurtzman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Without seeing a photo, it is probably H. C. Davis.
TBC, "... many are, sadly, lacking in the social graces." Would you please explain what that means? I take that as an insult. There are numerous Forum members with years of accumulated knowledge and experience, and in many cases with thousands of dollars invested in research materials, who donate their time to share that knowledge and experience or who take the time to do the research in order to provide informed responses, gratis. Please share with us. Who are the many and how are they lacking in the social graces?

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TBC

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iconnumber posted 08-26-2005 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TBC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Richard,

Sorry that you felt offended. It's just that Brian posted his question on 19th August and nobody with knowledge saw fit to respond... excuse me for excusing us experts for not responding. It's not something I could help him with ...I'm delighted you have been able to help him (and indeed, help educate me too).

This was Brian's second post here - seven days' without even a "sorry, I can't help you" causes me, as a Forum Member, some discomfort. You obviously don't, and that's your entitlement.

Regardless of this petty difference, thanks again for educating me on who "HCD" is.

Rgds,

Tom

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swarter
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iconnumber posted 08-26-2005 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swarter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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. . . seven days' without even a "sorry, I can't help you" causes me, as a Forum Member, some discomfort.

Such a response tends to discourage the questioner from returning and also might prevent others who might contribute from responding, especially if from someone who might -- rightly or wrongly -- be expected to know. Not all responders are "experts" and newcomers who do not know the responders might even think anyone who answers in such a way is an "expert," when in fact he may not be.

An unanswered question is an invitation for someone to answer. There is a statement in the guidelines/faqs to the effect that responses may not always be forthcoming.

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Silver Lyon

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iconnumber posted 08-26-2005 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Silver Lyon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Henry Clifford Davis (known as Clifford Davis), later H.C.Davis Limited. were Birmingham manufacturers from c.1900 through to the 1960s.
They were mainly suppliers of 'pretty' goods (sometimes enamelled) to retailing jewellers shops all over the United Kingdom and by 1950 were one of the few companies that continued to thrive in spite of the horrendous tax placed upon silver items by the post-war British Labour government.
Their earlier work is similarly angled, and does include novelties such as pen-wipers and stamp lickers.
Their factory was at 121 Vyse Street, then Harford Street in Birmingham and finally 23 Warstone Lane.
Hope that helps! smile
My grandmother always taught me that 'patience is a virtue' !!

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TBC

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iconnumber posted 08-26-2005 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TBC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Silver Lyon,

Thanks for educating me further!

Rgds,

Tom

(I've responded to Swarter's comments, off-line)

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bleggett

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iconnumber posted 08-27-2005 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bleggett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks to everyone who has contributed on this topic. I now have the info I was after.
I must admit that I was wondering if I had not gone through the correct channel when there were no responses but was reassured that there were other nil responses on questions posted before my question.
Thanks again to everyone
Brian

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 08-29-2005 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am not picking out anyone in particular, but in general one of the problems in some new members not getting fast or full responses is that too often there are new members who either do not read, or perhaps are not immediately able to follow, the guidelines posted in the "Please Read Before You Post" link at the top of every page on how to get a good and informed response. Among these is the need to provide clear photos, including closeups of the markings, which are very important to providing an informed response. Without such photos the best most people can do is take a guess. Another guideline that is not well followed is the request to provide some context for the question. I have found that when a new member follows these basic guidelines they tend to receive rapid, accurate and warm responses. Keep in mind that this forum is not an answer service being provided by someone - it is simply a place where people who enjoy silver can get together to talk about it and share information with each other on things we have. It is a two-way street.

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bleggett

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iconnumber posted 08-29-2005 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bleggett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Points taken, will bear in mind in the future.

Regards

brian

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