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cowboy

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Registered: Dec 2005

iconnumber posted 12-14-2005 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cowboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wondering if i can have a hand to work out what my bowl is and how old it is.
its silver has the letters JDWD stamped into a shield it has a crown stamp a lion stamp and a cursive i help me please

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Kimo

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iconnumber posted 12-14-2005 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kimo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi and welcome to the forum.

It is very difficult to say much of anything without some good clear photos - including closeups of the markings and overall photos of your bowl. It would also be helpful to getting a good response if you could share a bit of information as to your interest in silver in general and this bowl in particular.

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tmockait

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iconnumber posted 12-14-2005 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmockait     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to the forum. We really need a photo to help id your piece. If it is from England, it could be the stamp for Brimingham with a date letter, but I would need to see a picture to be sure. The shape of the punch is important.

Tom

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PhilO

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iconnumber posted 12-15-2005 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhilO     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In the absence of a picture I can say that your bowl was probably made by James Deakin & Sons and assayed in Sheffield. JD & WD are John Deakin and William Deakin, the partners in the company. However the period during which this mark was used does not include a cursive i. A picture will allow positive identification.

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cowboy

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iconnumber posted 12-15-2005 04:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cowboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
how do i post a pic on this site? i have a pic of the peice but have no idea how to show it

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cowboy

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iconnumber posted 12-15-2005 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cowboy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it has the halmark markings H3432 engraved on the bottom of the peice does that mean any thing, sorry i know nothing about this type off thing

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Marc

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iconnumber posted 12-15-2005 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there Cowboy..

See "How to post photos" at the top of the page. Welcome to the forum.

Marc

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FWG

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iconnumber posted 12-15-2005 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FWG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome! I'd agree with PhilO's identification of both the marks and the problem. Conceivably it's a gothic 'i' instead of cursive? That would match for Sheffield 1901.

The scratched-in letter/numbers are not part of a hallmarking system, but rather codes used typically for inventory control by makers and/or retailers. Some large estates might also have used such a system; I've occasionally seen pieces with as many as 3 or 4 different sets of them. (I say scratched-in rather than engraved just because they're generally only very lightly engraved, but of course the process technically is engraving)

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