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robelle Posts: 41 |
posted 08-29-2005 08:20 PM
  
Here is another English ladle I inherited from my grandmother. I need help in identifying the marks. I have one of those Bradbury books but it doesn't help me.
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tmockait Posts: 963 |
posted 08-29-2005 11:13 PM
Hello and welcome to the forum. Some of your marks are partially effaced, and the picture is a bit unclear. The piece is definitely London as indicated by the leopard's head. The partially effaced human head is that of a Soverign, in use from 1784-5 to 1889-90. Judging by the shape of the punch and the lack of a crown on the lion's head plus what looks like the date letter "n", I would say the piece dates to 1828-9. I don't have a good source on makers, and I am having trouble making out the letters. Looks like an "A" stamped over "CE"? Can you magnify the image any? Ditto for the date letter. Hope this helps, IP: Logged |
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PhilO Posts: 166 |
posted 08-30-2005 02:36 AM
The maker's mark is just "CE" - for Charles Eley. The date letter could be either "m" (1827/28) or "n" (1828/29). IP: Logged |
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wev Moderator Posts: 4132 |
posted 08-30-2005 10:29 AM
I fiddled the image a bit and it appears to be an "n" IP: Logged |
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robelle Posts: 41 |
posted 08-30-2005 10:36 AM
Wow, that is great. I couldn't find any info on Charles Eley. Where do you get such information? I need a good book on Makers. Can anyone recommend a good one that isn't too expensive? I will posting today a fork which looks pretty old too. IP: Logged |
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Silver Lyon Posts: 363 |
posted 08-30-2005 11:30 AM
It all depends upon what you want to know! The 'pattern' or design name for your ladle is"Fiddle, Thread and Husk" - it is always really good quality and quite scarce (should you seek more!). Charles Eley was trained as a spoonmaker by his father, William, who was also a spoonmaker trained by a spoonmaker (William Fearn). After trying partnership with his two brothers William and Henry the partnership broke up and Henry went off to be a Priest. Charles continued as a spoonmaker from 1825... The address of their manufactory was: Hope this helps! IP: Logged |
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robelle Posts: 41 |
posted 08-30-2005 11:52 AM
That story sounds very interesting. I will have to get a book on it. Thanks. IP: Logged |
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Silver Lyon Posts: 363 |
posted 08-30-2005 12:16 PM
John Fallon's little book on London marks and maker's (I forget the title!) should do you nicely, I think. IP: Logged |
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tmockait Posts: 963 |
posted 08-30-2005 01:16 PM
Wyler's, Book of Old Silver, is inexpensive but from what I undertand has a fair number of mistakes. It is still useful though. Jackson's hallmarks costs a fortune, but some libraries have it in their reference collection.
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