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DavidD Posts: 2 |
posted 01-16-2006 08:34 PM
  
Greetings: This is my first internet post ever! For a wedding present my father has given me an interesting silver tankard with a hinged top and, I believe, gold leaf/gilt interior. The tankard has been in my family for ?? yrs. Identical marks are found on the interior of the lid and exterior of the tankard. The exterior has engraving with initials(monogram) at the center and the letter h beneath it. My internet research on the marks indicates the following: .925 Sterling: Lion with raised paw, London: leopard with crown, Year: 1760, mark is distinct. I am, of course, at a loss when it comes to the makers mark. The mark is clearly visible on the tankard and,if you were looking at a compass: North=W,South=P,East=S, and West=W. There is a "dot" or period in the center or axis of the four letters. I would be grateful for any information about the maker and/or how the craftsmen built it (there are a multitude of what look like tiny ball peen hammer marks on the interior while the exterior is smooth). Was it commen to use a different material on the interior of these tankards? I apologise for the lack of pictures, but I'm rather new at this. Should folks be interested I will try to post photos. Thanks, David IP: Logged |
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Silver Lyon Posts: 363 |
posted 01-16-2006 09:01 PM
Your makers are William Shaw and William Priest (or Preist), who made many such tankards and can be considered good makers. They supplied many of the top London retailers and probably fulfilled many Colonial orders as well. Your tankard's interior would not have been gilded originally - this is probably a c.19th improvement. The hammer marks you can see inside are indeed the marks left by the maker as he hammered the silver into the desired form - the outside was polished by a specialist polisher before the piece was put for sale, but this expense was unnecesary for the interior. WS & WP: William Shaw was apprenticed to John Swift a noted maker of good commercial holloware (like sauceboats etc.)... He joined up with William Priest in 1749 and the partnership finished in 1763. WP was apprenticed to Richard Gurney (One of the last true Goldsmith-bankers) in 1740. RG was also a good maker of holloware. WP seems to have gone off on his own in 1763.  Now, Where are those pictures?? IP: Logged |
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DavidD Posts: 2 |
posted 01-16-2006 09:52 PM
Dear Silver Lyon: Thanks so much for the fascinating and detailed information. I will try to post pictures in a day or so. We have an excellant new digital camera (Christmas!)and (if I can figure out how to run the darn thing)will provide detailed pics. Again, thank you. Sincerely, IP: Logged |
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outwest Posts: 390 |
posted 01-16-2006 10:45 PM
I would love to see i, too. IP: Logged |
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