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Silver567

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iconnumber posted 06-02-2006 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Silver567     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Can a moderator change the title to 1810 or Not

Hi

I think these lovely long bright cut and engraved sugar tongs are London 1810 - there is no LHE so I am going on the date letter and shape of punches.

Maker is TS something - I am still working from Margaret-Taylor 1970. I definitely need to get a bigger book on maker's marks

So I hate to keep on asking but

Is London correct?
What is the maker?

As always deeply in your gratitude

Adam P

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adelapt

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Although the illustration isn't very clear on my display, I'd be more inclined to go for 1790. The lower case and upper case roman letter 'P' can look alike, though proportionately the upper case has a larger
curved section. And London is most likely.

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Silver567

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Thanks - I will see if I can insert a larger pic

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Silver Lyon

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Look in the thread entitled: misinformation in the General Forum (07-12-2005) - This will show you how to read the different, but horribly similar, O and P (as above) marks!
The maker is probably Thomas Streetin, who made many pairs of fine sugar tongs!

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salmoned

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Yes, that was perhaps my favorite thread to date. The vertical orientation of the marks indicates 1810. As well, starting in 1810 the sterling mark is at right angles to the other marks (as per Jackson's).

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Silver567

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iconnumber posted 06-02-2006 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Silver567     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi

Yes now you mention it, the top of the P date letter is very like 1790 - the date letters are very like 'Times New Roman' lower and upper case .... yes I agree it is a lower case 'p'

Thomas Streetin is looking good for maker.

Interesting that when I Googled for the mark I found a pair of tongs by him like mine went for $xx.00 in 2004. My tongs came as a pair and I sold one set a year ago for $xx.00+ (auction)

Silver is slowly rising I see, the scrap value is pulling better pieces up.

Even boxed sets of Edwardian coffee spoons are selling now - albeit with a good maker (W&H, etc.)

[snip ...SM] my house is crammed with glass, silver and ceramics.

Thanks


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