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 Beaker or Cup -- It Won't Stand Up
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mdhavey Posts: 167 |
posted 03-04-2011 01:05 PM
  
Here's a lovely beaker or cup with marks from (I think) Charles Gordon who worked in London around 1830. The repoussé work is deep and very well done. The date mark is pretty rubbed but may be 1832. It's 5-1/2" tall and because of the convexity of the base, it doesn't stand up without wobbling. It appears to have been built that way, there is no obvious damage to the base (or is it the top?) that would have caused it to bow out. A dealer friend thinks this was a communion cup. Any thoughts? IP: Logged |
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PhilO Posts: 166 |
posted 03-05-2011 03:02 AM
The grapevine decoration almost certainly rules out a (Christian) religious connection and suggests that alcohol of some sort is the intended tipple here. The fact that it will not stand shows that it should probably be drained fairly quickly. I suggest it may be a stirrup cup. These are traditionally used for serving alcohol to mounted hunt members prior to the hunt setting off. IP: Logged |
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mdhavey Posts: 167 |
posted 03-05-2011 04:29 PM
True, it seems unlikely that C of E worship would include Bacchus. Don't stirrup cups usually feature animal heads? IP: Logged |
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PhilO Posts: 166 |
posted 03-06-2011 02:08 AM
Yes stirrup cups very often have animal heads, particularly foxes, which was why I wasn't sure. It's also fairly large for a stirrup cup, so perhaps intended for passing round a group rather than for individual consumption. IP: Logged |
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mdhavey Posts: 167 |
posted 03-06-2011 10:38 AM
PhilO, this gets me thinking it may be some kind of loving or wedding cup -- meant to be passed between two lovers and quaffed dry before putting it down. IP: Logged |
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Scott Martin Forum Master Posts: 11573 |
posted 03-06-2011 11:10 AM
Might it be a vase/holder from an epergne? This is an example from a Walker & Hall Antique George V English Sterling Silver Flower Epergne / Centrepiece IP: Logged |
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mdhavey Posts: 167 |
posted 03-11-2011 11:25 AM
Interesting, Scott, hadn't thought about that. There are no wear marks to indicate it's been put back and forth into a holder for the past 150 years, but maybe the holder has been missing for most of those years! Nice pictures, by the way... IP: Logged |
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