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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 05-28-2018 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote


This is a small tea caddy spoon with the date mark for 1879 and the maker’s mark for Henry Holland. I am curious about it because it has the letter L and a four armed symbol impressed on either side of the maker’s mark.

These are the type of marks I would expect to see on American silver, but not on English.
Could these be simply a journeyman’s marks? Or some production code?

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PhilO

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These are typical of journeymen's marks, or at least what we normally say are journeymen's marks; as there is no record of such marks it is not possible to be completely certain. The only strange feature here is that there are 2 different marks so it may be that one is, in fact, some sort of production code.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 05-29-2018 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Perhaps the journeyman and engraver?

The L looks engraved.

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ahwt

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Thanks Scott and PhilO.

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agleopar

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I wonder, that if these are journeyman marks, the four arm could be the spoon forgers and the L the engravers? If it was a big shop only making flatware this might have been the way to keep track of who made what.

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