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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 03-16-2021 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a copy of a post by Robert Hunter on a forum about British ceramics. The mug has a silver band attributed to two Dutch silversmiths that moved to London by the 1690s. Since it has Queen Anne’s mark it was probably made sometime after 1702.

I posted it here as I think the 300 + year old silver band has a really magical touch to it.

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“A week or so ago, I nonchalantly posted some images of a great, early British mug ascribing to London manufacture with unusual lathe turned, rouletted bands....

I invited my partner Michelle to have a quick look/handling session before I was to pack up the mug to send on to its final destination....
Without hesitation upon picking it up, Michelle said this is slip cast!

For casual observers, this may not mean much, but for us so-called stoneware connoisseurs of early British stoneware, this immediately elevated this example into a whole new dimension...

Most pertinent, is the work of Dutch Silversmiths, John and David Elers who worked both in Staffordshire and London in the 1690s.
Their red clay stonewares were always slip cast, engined turned and often finished with silver rims.

The exact date of their terminal of their business is unknown but often cited as 1700. Competitor John Dwight may have picked up the baton with experimentation at that time but he dies in 1703. The "AR" excised mark is indicative of Queen Anne's reign which begins in 1702.
The story continues.....”





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iconnumber posted 03-18-2021 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks. That is great & I see why it caught your eye. Thanks for posting this.

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 03-18-2021 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does anyone know when the practice of marking items with the initial of the King or Queen of Great Britain started? Or why?

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iconnumber posted 03-19-2021 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The exact mark used on ceramic articles was not controlled in the same manner as sterling marks. They sometimes used the initial of the reigning monarch, but it seems more often they used the initials W for King William.
This then is not a lot of help in dating when the object was made.
Also I do not know who incised the mark as it is not like having a die that you use to stamp it in.

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