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Polly

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iconnumber posted 02-13-2017 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I now have three 1870s American figural cream ladles. Does that constitute a collection yet?

The floral one just arrived. I know, the photo stinks--I'll take better photos tomorrow in the daylight (on a white cloth, not blue, and I'll polish them first). I was just so excited. It's by Wood & Hughes. Any gardeners recognize the flower? It's so specific-looking--I bet it's some particular flower.



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agleopar

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iconnumber posted 02-13-2017 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1 is just one. 2 is a couple. 3 is definitely a collection!
Very nice, I like the feeling of these and they seem to fit in that category of things that can be more playful than a patern that flatware has to fit into because it's sort of a stand alone. Like butter knives and dinner bells.

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Vetdaddy

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iconnumber posted 02-13-2017 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vetdaddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polly, I would call this a collection. Three years ago I never fathomed I would collect flatware. That all changed on day when I attended a very small antique show on the Florida east coast. Cash was king that day and I walked out with a Gorham (attribution) polar bear ice spoon. For me, that one item was a collection. Sadly or not, the fuse was lit....

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Vetdaddy

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iconnumber posted 02-13-2017 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vetdaddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polly, BTW- I personally like the blue background. It reminds me of surgical instruments on blue surgical drape. As with silver, stainless instruments patinate nicely over time.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 02-13-2017 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vetdaddy, have we seen your polar bear ice spoon?

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Vetdaddy

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iconnumber posted 02-13-2017 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vetdaddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polly, I do not believe I have posted any pics. I will get some photos posted this week.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 02-13-2017 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please do! I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to see it.

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Vetdaddy

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iconnumber posted 02-14-2017 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vetdaddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As promised....quick pics from my cell phone this morning!!

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 02-14-2017 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, that is quite an ice spoon! I can see why it started you on the road to collecting!

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Vetdaddy

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iconnumber posted 02-14-2017 10:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vetdaddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Polly. Economically I should have kept with the one spoon collection!!

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asheland

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iconnumber posted 02-14-2017 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very nice spoon, Vetdaddy!
And a nice group Polly. smile
Awesome stuff in this thread!

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 02-14-2017 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here we go, daytime photos:





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Polly

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iconnumber posted 02-14-2017 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The reeded handle seems to be made out of the same thick reeded wire that was used in the handle of a Wood & Hughes compote I have. Here's the compote with clementines in it, with the new W&H cream ladle:

And here are the two handles next to each other. That curled part of the compote handle is made of the same reeded stuff, right?

Any guesses about the flower? I want to say it's a poppy.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 02-14-2017 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The other two cream ladles in my "collection" are by Whiting. The bunny one is my favorite. Here's a close-up of the bunny (with its friend a birdie on a berry spoon):

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 02-14-2017 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Obviously what I REALLY need is a POLAR BEAR LADLE!!!!!

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 02-14-2017 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All very pretty ladle and serving pieces.

I have seen Polly's ladle referred to as cream basket ladles. Did the basket shape fulfill some function?

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 02-14-2017 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Start here! wink

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Vetdaddy

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iconnumber posted 02-14-2017 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vetdaddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scott- was one of my favorite songs to sing in the shower when I was a kid. The reverberation off the tile walls really helped my voice. With a warm winter in Florida...no "three dog nights" for us.

Polly- I have the whiting bird server and is one of my favorites. The rabbit is simply outstanding.....did not know it existed. BTW- my polar bear is under house arrest and cannot leave!!

I feel this thread is going to hurt my wallet.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 02-14-2017 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL, Scott!!!

Vetdaddy, take good care of your bear! Those icebergs are melting more and more every year...

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 02-14-2017 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
awht, I always assumed the barrel-shaped bowls on ladles were just a little witticism about what ladles have in common with barrels: both are objects made to hold liquids.

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asheland

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iconnumber posted 02-15-2017 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polly can have the Polar Bear ladle, but I get the Ice Bowl! biggrin

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Vetdaddy

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iconnumber posted 02-15-2017 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vetdaddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have always admired the polar bear bowls. Never seen one in person but do follow auction sales as a "indicator" of the market.

I was surprised to learn that they are really not that large...about 11 or so inches in diameter and 30 or so troy ounces. I wonder if they ever made larger ones that approach punch bowel dimensions.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 02-15-2017 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Valentine's Day chocolate soufflé; birdie berry spoon in use, along with W&H compote and Gorham ice cream spoons. (I know, nothing's very visible.)

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 02-15-2017 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yummy! smile

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asheland

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iconnumber posted 02-16-2017 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a cool picture, Polly. smile

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H Bradshaw

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iconnumber posted 03-25-2017 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for H Bradshaw     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lovely ladles & other silver. I believe the flower in question is an anemone, probably 'virginiana'; I have them growing in my back yard.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 03-25-2017 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anemone! Thank you!

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seaduck

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iconnumber posted 03-27-2017 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for seaduck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just picked up this very fun thread.

Scott: I really did Laugh Out Loud!!!

Always so comforting to find others afflicted by the same ailment........

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 03-28-2017 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm up to five now. The new ones are a Gorham ivy pattern and a Whiting lotus pattern.

Bowls:

Handles:

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asheland

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iconnumber posted 03-29-2017 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for asheland     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those look superb together!

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H Bradshaw

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This collection of little bucket ladles is outstanding; I'm so envious! Congratulations on your 2 acquisitions since the thread started.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 03-31-2017 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, H Bradshaw. I think I need to have an ice cream sundae party with five different sauces and creams.

Hot fudge, of course, and whipped cream. Caramel. Raspberry. Another kind of berry? Maple? Hm...

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H Bradshaw

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iconnumber posted 04-01-2017 02:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for H Bradshaw     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So many possibilities. And don't forget fresh strawberry sauce; you MUST find more ladles!
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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 04-11-2017 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polly, searching the internet for these ladles is interesting as the search terms used make an unusual difference in the results. For the phrase “hot toddy ladles” the results include lots of ladles of the type you have with a lesser amount of ladles with whale bone handles. With the phrase “toddy ladles” as the search term almost all of the results are some form of ladle with whale bone handles. With the search term “silver cream ladle” most of the results are what I consider traditional all silver ladles.
Nevertheless, I have always thought that your ladles were cream ladles and the whale bone types were hot toddy ladles. I may not be using the nomenclature commonly used, but I just do not see using your type of ladle for a hot toddy.

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Polly

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The thing about hot toddy is, it's hot. Silver conducts heat very quickly. I think you would burn your fingers if you used an all-silver ladle for hot toddy.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 11-06-2017 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
New cream ladle! Figural ladle in the form of a water lily, parcel gilt, in its original box. 8" long (about the length of an unsharpened pencil), like the others. Marked only STERLING, but I think this is Whiting, since it has the same three-wire type of handle as my other Whiting ladles. It's a lot like the Lotus ladle in spirit. Needs more polishing, but I don't want to rub off the gilding.




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Polly

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I love the way the bowl attaches to the handle.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 11-06-2017 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, I'm certain this is Whiting because I've seen the same water lily as a salt dip, with the Whiting mark.

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Scott Martin
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iconnumber posted 11-06-2017 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scott Martin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's great. I'd guess Whiting also.

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ahwt

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iconnumber posted 11-06-2017 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahwt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Polly, You really do not have a collection - you have a great collection. Enjoy!

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agleopar

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Stunning Polly!

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Paul Lemieux

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FYI Vetdaddy, it looks like Gorham made your polar bear piece using a pattern that some refer to as "Seal Top", though it is called "Old English" in the Gorham archives. It's uncommon enough, the addition of the polar bear is fabulous.

Here is a cheese knife in Old English from Pinterest.

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asheland

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That's a great ladle, Polly! I love the old box, too. smile

Paul, I actually have an example of Old English by Gorham and it is indeed a tough pattern.

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Polly

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iconnumber posted 01-26-2018 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
New ladle, in Wood & Hughes's lily of the valley pattern. It's a bit beat up, but all the blossoms are accounted for.


I like the notch on the point of the bowl:

[This message has been edited by Polly (edited 01-27-2018).]

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agleopar

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That is a great addition! I hope I live long enough to see your “collection” when it has fully matured...

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Polly

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Thanks, Rob--I hope *I* live long enough to see that! I'm astonished at the wittiness and variety of cream ladles in this period. It seems unending.

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iconnumber posted 01-27-2018 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for agleopar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There seem to be more than a few categories where the makers in this period vied for attention by being very clever in their designs. Butter knives, baby cups, your cream ladles, flat ware of different sorts, match safes, just some I can think of. The big companies were trying to stay ahead of the herd and the little ones wanted attention. All at a time when labor was cheap and the value of good design was paramount.

That's my theory, love to hear what others think.

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Polly

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Silver was also available--more so than at the beginning of the century. And novelty was fashionable. There were decades when only very tiny variations on a pattern were offered and acceptable, but in this period people went crazy producing things that looked quite different from other things, at least in silver. I wonder why that was? Did it have to do with who had money to buy them and where their money came from?

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Polly

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It's definitely a collection now. New ladle, marked only STERLING 71 (who made it???????):





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Polly

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I think my favorites are the Whiting bunny and the water lily in its original box (though I'm never going to dare to actually use that one). I recently lost an auction for a sugar sifter with the same bunny handle. I have a Gorham Lady's Pattern ladle slowly making its way to me; after that I'm going to do my best to cool it with the ladles. Unless something amazing shows up super cheap, of course.

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